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Saturday, October 11, 2025

10/11/25 Report - How Much Metal Detectors Miss: Revisiting the Topic. Comments and Cautions on Detecting Strategies.


South of Fort Pierce Jetty Near High Tide Saturday Morning
Source: SurfGuru.com.

We are still having the King tides, which in the photo above, has the water still hitting the base of the dunes.

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As I said a few days ago, I recently noticed that YouTubers were talking about things we talked about in this blog ten or twenty years ago.  I already mentioned one or two of those. and I'll address another today.  One Youtuber seemed impressed by the performance of a new metal detector when he found a few targets in a field that he had covered many times before with other detectors.  He attributed the finds to the remarkable capabilities of the new metal detector. It is reasonable to feel good about a metal detector that makes finds in areas that have been detected before, but there is something that must be realized.

One of the most important posts (actually it was a series of posts) I ever published in this blog was about how many targets remain in the ground even after the site has been metal detected many times and finds are diminishing.  I'm talking about the posts about the tests conducted by Russ P., who after metal detecting the same site several times along with other detectorists who detected the same site, then bull-dozed and sifted the entire lot and found that there were still many coins remaining in the ground. When that ground was sifted, hundreds of coins were found even after all the metal detecting.  Here is the link for the post that summarized the findings of that study.

The Treasure Beaches Report Direct From Florida's Treasure Coast.: 3/26/18 Report - First Investigation Ever To Really Answer Two Big Questions: How Much Is Actually In The Ground As Compared To How Much Will Be Found Using A Metal Detector.

As far as I'm concerned, that post is a MUST READ for any detectorist.  I've never seen another study that involves sifting an entire lot after it has been heavily detected.  It is the only study I know that shows how much can be missed by metal detecting.  Normally, detectorists never know how much they missed.

It must be acknowledged that that ground was not the typical piece of ground.  It held an unusual amount of silver coins. But the important part is that it shows how much can be missed.  And it was not a large piece of ground, so you might expect good coverage.  To summarize the results, the detector finds were less than one third of all the finds made by sifting.  There were hundreds of silver coins remaining in the ground.

It should therefore not be at all surprising when continued metal detecting continues to produce some coins when a new detector is used.  I'll maintain that using the same detector might produce results if new settings or techniques and the same detector are used.  That is the basis for my Progressive Step-Search technique.  Using another detector is just another step that could also be expected to produce a few additional results.

One problem we have as detectorists is that we typically never find out what we didn't get.  You only see your hits (or finds).  You never find out what you missed.  It is something like taking tests in school and only finding out how many you got right but never finding out about the ones you got wrong.

In metal detecting, you learn a lot when you learn what you missed.  My metal detecting changed a lot when I found out that I was missing small gold rings when I used a certain level of discrimination.  After changing to using mostly all-metals mode, which I did for many years, my productivity changed dramatically.  You can go around forever feeling good about the great find you made without ever learning the painful truth of the ones that got away.

How can you tell what is left behind?  Unless you do something like Russ did and sift it all, you won't get such a full accounting, but you can check and double check some of the things you do by systematically making changes and trying different things.  

Maybe there are times when you did get it all, but I wouldn't bet on it when there is any size to the area or when the area has accumulated many targets over time.

First, detectorists seldom cover an area as well as they think they did. I've proved that to myself many times.  I've talked about such things as imperfect sweep patterns, discrimination of various forms, target masking and more.

Most modern metal detectors provide an endless variety of settings and typically detectorists only select one setting for each hunt. Modern detectors make automatic adjustments.  That in itself can cause missing targets.  A metal detector can lose depth while working to adjust.  Tradeoffs are involved when metal detectors attempt to filter out noise, adjust to mineralization or avoid junk.

Also, site conditions change over time due to geological forces, weather and sources of ambient noise.  Coins and other objects change position in the ground as a result of geological factors, weather and animals. 

In short, there are many reasons that coins can be missed on any particular outing.  The operator changes too.  The operator changes behaviorally, physiologically and psychologically during and between hunts.  Focus attention change as the operator becomes tired or discouraged.  All of that can affect decisions, coverage and results.   

The bottom line is that it is easy overestimate your effectiveness and underestimate what remains.  By taking all that into consideration, you should be able to make better decisions.  

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Discrimination is a similar matter.  Again you don't know what you miss, but you can check yourself once in a while, which is something I recommend.  In fact, my recommendation would be to start on a site without discriminating, and after finding out what kind of stuff you are dealing with, then deciding what your strategy will be and what settings you will choose.  

If you will really want to know what your metal detector is telling you, there is no substitute for actually digging the signals and holding the object in your hand.  That is the best way to check and know with certainty.  Actually, you don't always know what you have when you hold it and look at it.  It sometimes takes years of research, so why would you expect your detector to be able to tell you all you need to know about possibly valuable or complex objects.  Most detectorists will never spend the time to really conduct studies to do a real analysis of the benefit or loss of their decisions, and that is certainly ok if detecting is just a hobby and you just do it for the fun of it.  You might be happier not knowing what you missed.

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Here is a academic study that discovered that AI agents under certain conditions will be deceptive or just straight out lie.

Moloch's Bargain: Emergent Misalignment When LLMs Compete for Audiences

Again, while AI can be useful, there can be significant risks that you should know about.

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Source: nhc.noaa.gov.

Jerry is still out there, but the pattern this year has kept the storms far out to sea.


Source: nhc.noaa.gov.

The Treasure Coast surf is still up around four or five feet, and the surf has a little more angle to it this morning.  We had a bit of a front come through, and the weather is not as hot as it has been all summer long.  I like the cooler weather, and I heard we won't be getting so much rain.  I think the beach weather will be nice.

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I received some questions conerning coin movement and plan to address that sometime soon.

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Good hunting,

Treasureguide@comcast.net


Thursday, October 9, 2025

10/10/25 - Most Recent Sedwick Coins Treasure Auction Now Online. Vulture Nest Artifact Hoards. AI and Metal Detecting.



Treasure, World, U.S. Coin and Paper Money Auction 38

Live on the Internet, Thursday-Saturday, November 13, 14, & 15, 2025



This auction brings together one of the most complete and exciting selections we have ever offered, combining important named collections with individual rarities from all across the world of numismatics. The result is a sale that captures the full story of coinage in the Americas and beyond. As usual, it is consignors and bidders who make this possible, so we thank you all!


... everything we sell is guaranteed and certifiable at any time. 


First, it is our privilege to present the Sedwick-Downing Collection of Charles-Joanna Coinage of Mexico City, the result of more than a decade of study and collecting...


For this auction, we hit the ground running with the McGregor Collection of Gold Cobs from the 1715 Fleet...  While this collection showcases a full range of denominations of gold cobs from Mexico City (including a fabulous Royal-dies 1714 8 escudos) and Lima, it also contributes to significant offerings from Cuzco and Cartagena...  In fact, in this sale we feature all of the famous United States shipwrecks, namely S.B. Pulaski (1838), S.S. New York (1846), S.S. Central America (1857), S.S. Brother Jonathan (1865), and S.S. Republic(1865)....


Finally, our auctions are unique for offering treasures in coin jewelry and shipwreck artifacts in a wide range of time periods (over two centuries), particularly from the Atocha (1622), Concepción (1641), Bannister’s pirate ship Golden Fleece (1686), 1715 Fleet, and S.S. Central America(1857)...


Session Schedule

Thursday November 13
Session I Gold Cobs & Shipwreck Coins 9:30 AM EST - Lots 1-517

Session II: Silver Cobs 6:00 PM EST- Lots 518-821
Friday November 14
Session III: World Coins 9:30 AM EST- Lots 822-1340

Session IV: Medals, US Coins & World Paper 4:00 PM EST- Lots 1341-1444
Session V: Ancient Coins, Coin Jewelry & Artifacts 5:30 PM EST- Lots 1445-1554
Saturday November 15

Session IV: Express 9:30 AM EST- Lots 1555-1950


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The above information was obtained from Sedwick Coins.  Here is the link for more information.   Upcoming Auction – Sedwick & Associates, LLC


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Here is an interesting article about a surprising place where old relics were found.





Bearded Vulture nests found to have hoards of cultural artifacts—some up to 650 years old

They say, "Between 2008 and 2014, we carried out intense research focusing on more than 50 well-preserved historical Bearded Vulture nests in parts of southern Spain, where the species became extinct around 70–130 years ago. A total of 12 nests were examined, and the remains were identified and analyzed layer by layer, following established archaeological stratigraphic methods."...

The team rifled through centuries worth of vulture eggshells, remains of prey, and nesting material and among these they also found 226 items that had been made or altered by humans—providing a window into both past ecosystems and human cultures from the region. The hoard included items like a slingshot made from esparto grass, shoes, a crossbow bolt, a decorated piece of sheep leather and a wooden lance...

Here is the link.

Bearded Vulture nests found to have hoards of cultural artifacts—some up to 650 years old

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With the rougher surf I've been talking mostly about the weather and beach conditions. I had a lot of other things to talk about, but I kept them for when things slowed down a little.

In the past I showed a number of ways detectorists can use AI. There are also risks involved with using AI. I mentioned, for example, that AI gossips. It might feel like you are having a confidential discussion with a friend, but AI gossips. It stores your interactions and justifies that by saying it is to improve performance, but you never know exactly how your interactions might be used in the future.

Authorities recently found the arsonist responsible for the Palisades fires (See Jonathan Rinderknecht: Prosecutors arrest man for L.A.'s Palisades Fire). They used his interactions with AI as evidence.  I doubt the suspect anticipated his AI interactions being used in that way.  Your AI interactions might be used in ways you never anticipated even if you never do anything illegal.  That data might be used for marketing or any of a variety of unanticipated ways.

On another topic, metal detector manufacturers could use AI is to improve the user interface for metal detectors. Wouldn't you rather verbally tell your detector what you want to do, for example, increase discrimination, select mode X, or increase earphone volume, rather than plodding through menus. Your detector might even ask you what you want to do at setup and select or suggest the best settings? That kind of user interface could make using metal detectors more efficient, especially those who are just beginning to learn how to use their new detector.

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Surf Chart for the Fort Pierce Jetty Area from Surfguru.com.

Not much new here, but the surf will be getting a little lower on average.

We are still having some nice high Fall King tides.

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I'll soon be posting some tests of the Manticore metal detector as well as discussions concerning the conduct of metal detector tests.

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Good hunting,

Treasureguide@comcast.net

10/9/25 Report - A Day of Great Hope for Peace. May the Lord Give You Peace Prayer: A Story of a Treasure Coast Find.

 

Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.


May the Lord Give You Peace Prayer on Back of old Treasure Coast Medallion Find.


Sometimes things just come together and sometimes stories just want to be told.  That is how it seemed to me today.  I told some of this story before, but it seemed to want to be told again.

I remember watching a movie on TV some forty or fifty years ago, and all that time hoping to see it again, but I never did.  My research with AI tells me it must have been either Brother Sun, Sister Moon, or Francesco, which are movies about the life of St. Francis. 

I just read that remains of St Francis of Assisi will be displayed at a rare event at the Basilica of Saint Francis in Assisi.

One of my earliest 1715 Fleet finds was a medallion bearing the May Lord Give You Peace Prayer.  The medallion was so encrusted when I found it that I thought it was a coin just like the many other encrusted coins I found.  I didn't pay much attention to it, and it sat in a pile of coins waiting to be tumbled. I finally tumbled the coins.

It was one of those types of mistakes you hopefully learn from, and I did.  When I checked to see how the cleaning was going, I discovered what appeared to be something other than a coin.  Thankfully I discovered the mistake before the medallion suffered more damage, but did lose most of the gilding and as well as some other damage.

But now that I could see the item, I still didn't understand the significance of the find.  I didn't know what the picture represented, and I didn't know what the Latin inscription on the back said.

Thankfully, researcher and author, Laura Strolia provided the following information.

St. Anthony of Padua had a beloved Psalter that was lost and that he begged God to be returned to him as it contained notes he'd written to help him instruct his students. In response to his prayers for the return of the book, a novice who'd left the Franciscan Order returned, bringing the Psalter (now kept at the Franciscan Friary in Bologna, Italy) with him and confessing that he'd stolen it and asking to be allowed to return to the religious life (this was granted). Thereafter, St. Anthony became the Patron Saint called on to pray with you to find lost objects.

Concerning the image on the front of the medallion, she says, The man bowing down in front of St. Anthony with head down, must be asking for forgiveness for stealing his book of Psalms (and notes). St. Anthony is forgiving while holding the book.

On the back of the medallion is the May the Lord Give You Peace Prayer.

Moe, who you might know as one of the very successful 1715 Fleet salvors, identified the writing on the back as follows.

The religious medallion shown is a St. Francis of Assisi medal. I believe that the words (Latin) on the back are a blessing that St. Francis wrote to Brother Leo.

"Benedicat tibi Dominus et custodiat te;
ostendat faciem suam tibi et misereatur tui.
Convertat vultum suum ad te et det tibi pacem"

I can see the words: Custodiat ostendat faciem miseratur convertat vultum

This prayer is known as "May the Lord give you peace".
The translation is:
"The Lord bless you and keep you;
may He show His face to you and have mercy.
May He turn His countenance to you and give you peace."



I originally posted the following snipping back in 2011, including the front view of the medallion along with some of the text of the post.



And here is the link. 



As I think you can see from this story, the treasure is much more than an object and its story much greater than its economic value.  

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The relics of St. Francis of Assisi, one of the most beloved saints in history, will be put on display in Italy next year...

The relics will be on display at the Basilica of Saint Francis in Assisi from Feb. 22 to Mar. 22, 2026, during which time Francis' body "will be moved from its tomb in the crypt and placed at the foot of the papal altar in the lower church of the basilica," the outlet noted... 

Here is the link for more about that.


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Source: nhc.noaa.gov.


Here is the weather story.  It looks like Jerry will stay far out and not affect us much.


Source: Surf Chart from SurfGuru.com.


As you can see, it looks like we won't receive much more surf in the next several days.  The surf will remain higher than it was all summer, but it looks to me like there won't be any more improvement during this time period.  I'm expecting some filling.

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There are many stories about treasure seekers who spend all they have and take long and difficult journeys, then return home to find the treasure.

The struggle is withing, so is the treasure.

“See to it, then, that the light within you is not darkness.” – Luke 11:35

Look within.


Good hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Wednesday, October 8, 2025

10/8/25 Report - Melbourne Treasure Beaches Much Like the Treasure Coast Beaches. Hurricane Jerry. Really High Tides Today.


Written by the Treasureguide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.


Melbourne Area Beach
Photo by Joe. D.

I've been showing a variety of the Treasure Coast beaches lately.   As you probably know, 1715 Fleet treasure has been found up at Melbourne too - both on the beaches and on shipwreck sites.  I haven't done any metal detecting up there and haven't talked about the area very much, but Joe D. was kind enough to send these beach photos of the Melbourne area.  


Melbourne Area Beach
Photo by Joe D.

As you can see, there is a lot of renourishment sand up there too.  Joe commented on the poor beach conditions up there.


Melbourne Area Beach.
Photo by Joe D.


You can see a cut running along in front of the renourished dunes, and a lot of seaweed.  Seaweed is usually a bad sign for metal detecting.  It is a sign of a building beach, which often happens after rough seas and a wind change.  The seaweed is pretty heavy up there.


Melbourne Area Beaches.
Photo by Joe D.

I hope the beach renourishment frenzy of recent years slows down.  It seems they couldn't send out and spend the money fast enough.  

Notice the flat beach in front of the slope.  Some of the renourishment sand did get dragged out there, where it will protect the beaches from rough surf to some extent.

Looks like the photos were taken at low tide.

Thanks for the great photos Joe.


Down in Fort Pierce about a hour before high tide this morning, the water was already getting up near the cut dunes even though the surf is supposed to be decreasing a bit.  The water is still pretty rough.

This morning's high tide is supposed to be nearly a four-footer.  


Surf from Surfguru South Beach Cam View about 8:15 Wed. AM.


Jerry is going to become a hurricane but remain out in the Atlantic.


Source: nhc.noaa.gov.

I'm still expecting some north winds from that.  

I guess we're supposed to get an actual cool front from the north sometime before long too.


Surf Chart for Fort Pierce Jetty Area from SurfGuru.com.


Saturday and Sunday the surf will be back up to around six feet again.  We'll see some north winds at the beginning of that.

There is a heck of a lot of sand to be moved, but if this keeps up it will help.

There are still some good spots that I haven't checked.  Next time out I'll have to take a long walk.

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I recently posted this RC bottle in my TGBottlebarn.blogspot.com site.  While it isn't really valuable, it is a good bottle for dating a site.  With the debossed lettering, it dates to 1935 - 1939.

You can find a lot of good history on a lot of bottles thanks to the Society of Historical Archaeology site.

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Good hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Tuesday, October 7, 2025

10/7/25 Report - A Few Recent Treasure Coast Beach Metal Detecting Finds. Tropical Storm Jerry Next in Line.

 

Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.


Some Recent Finds.

This is the first I got around to taking a good look at my recent metal detecting finds.  I knew I didn't have anything great.  I was a little surprised by what I found out. Of the three items shown above I was wrong about two.  

First, I thought the ring at the top looked like it was probably silver, but it isn't.

The big earring in the middle, I thought was probably junk, but it turned out to be silver.


It must have been a recent drop.  It doesn't show any tarnish or corrosion.  That fooled me a little. 

I thought the junk ring at the top of the photo looked like old silver, but it is, at best. plated.  

The finger ring is missing most of the stones.  It originally had a heart-shaped center stone and three small diamond looking stones to each side.  Only three are there now, and they are small.  It turned out to be 10K gold - 1.3 grams, which at current gold prices isn't bad.


10K Mark on Found Ring.

Gold went over $4000/oz. today.  At that price, even small amounts of gold are worthwhile.

The time I spent hunting was where renourishment sand had eroded, so I didn't expect to find any really old items.  I should have spent more time and walked to some of the areas that had a better chance of producing old stuff, but I didn't.  

Of course, I also found the normal clad and miscellaneous junk.

Even there was a lot of good surf and sand movement, the angles weren't great and there was still a lot of renourishment sand on the Treasure Coast to overcome. We are just getting started though.

The surf is getting smaller.

Surf Chart for the Fort Pierce Jetty Area from SurfGuru.com.


With the next tropical storm, Jerry, already out there, I have a lot of hope for this Fall beach season.

I'm looking to get out again soon.  I'm hoping for a good chance to get down in the low tide area at some of the areas where there has been recent erosion.  

The high tides are unusually high these, and we are also having some decent low tides.  Last night's low was slightly negative.

Here is the most recent NHC map showing the projected path for Tropical Storm Jerry.


Source: nhc.noaa.gov.


As you can see, Jerry appears to be headed north and staying out in the Atlantic.


Source: Windy.com.

The above mode from Windy.com shows circulation north of Florida sending north winds and surf our way.  It looks similar Friday.  That is the ECMWF model.  

If you check the SurfGuru.com surf chart above, you'll see the north winds Friday and Saturday along with a little bump in the surf, but the surf looks like it will still be from the east.

For me, this is much better metal detecting weather and conditions than the long hot summer we just came through.  

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What did early humans like to eat? The answer, according to a team of archaeologists in Argentina, is extinct megafauna, such as giant sloths and giant armadillos. In a study published in the journal Science Advances, researchers demonstrate that these enormous animals were a staple food source for people in southern South America around 13,000 to 11,600 years ago. Their findings may also rewrite our understanding of how these massive creatures became extinct...

Here is the link to that article.

Early humans dined on giant sloths and other Ice Age giants, archaeologists find

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I recently added a Royal Crown soda bottle and Fehrs beer bottle to the TGBottlebarn.blogspot.com site.

Good hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Monday, October 6, 2025

10/6/25 Report - Million Dollar Treasure Coast Spanish Shipwreck Treasure Found. Rare Coin Treasure Hunt. Another System on the Map.


Written by the Treasureguide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.



More than 1,000 silver and gold coins collectively valued at about $1 million were recovered from an 18th-century shipwreck off the coast of Florida, a shipwreck salvage company said...

"The condition of the coins suggests they were part of a single chest or shipment that spilled when the ship broke apart in the hurricane’s fury," the press release added.

Guttuso said in a phone call on Thursday that the coins were found scattered in a concentrated area deep in the sand. He added that the coins are believed to have once been in a container, as some of them bear the pattern of a burlap sack imprinted on them...

He added that one of the items found along with the coins is a royal lead seal bearing the impression of Philip II of Spain, who ruled in the mid-to-late 1500s...


Here is the link for the rest of the article.

$1M worth of coins recovered in Spanish shipwreck off Florida coast, treasure hunters say


This article has been circulating lately. I had it several days ago but gave priority to the changing weather and beach conditions for you beach detectorists.

I even saw a bit of this story on local noon TV news today.

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Stacks Bowers Galleries is putting on a Treasure Hunt for certificates for rare coins and banknotes.
  

For Americans wishing they could participate in the Great Canadian Treasure Hunt, there is a new opportunity stateside. This month, the rare coin dealer and auction house Stack’s Bowers Galleries is inviting the public to join in on a treasure hunt to celebrate the 90th anniversary of the firm’s first auction.

Certificates for rare coins and banknotes will be hidden in New York City, Boston, Philadelphia, and Miami, all cities where the auction house has retail store fronts. The certificates will be tucked away in five iconic locations in each city, with one location revealed per day. The treasure hunt will run in each city for five days...

Here is the link for more about that.

A rare coin treasure hunt kicks off in 4 American cities

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Gold was only about sixteen dollars below $4000/oz. at one point Monday.  

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Tim Murray suggested using dielectric grease on the charging surfaces on Equinox detector to protect the surface from dirt and corrosion.

Thanks Tim.

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Source: nhc.noaa.gov.

Looking ahead, here is the National Hurricane Center map showing the newest are of interest taking a track similar to others this year.  Looks like it will stay out in the Atlantic.  It suspect it will, however, send us some more surf, and possible from a more northerly angle.


Source: Windy.com.

One model, ECMWF, shows the following for this coming Saturday.  You can see the circulation just north of Florida and the resulting north wind flow.


Surf Chart for the Fort Pierce Jetty Area from SurfGuru.com.

SurfGuru is showing only three- or four-foot surf for the Fort Pierce area next Saturday.  I'll be watching to see if that might change, which it certainly could.

The SurfGuru chart, shown above, is showing a predicted north wind at that time.  We'll see how that all goes together.

The surf is predicted to be decreasing daily for a few days.  You might want to watch for a good chance to check some low tide areas when there is a good low tide.  

Keep watching how things develop.  You'll make better decisions in the future if you keep track of how things develop day by day.

Today (Monday), the high tides are both over 3.5 feet.  Those are pertty good high tides.

Good hunting,

Treasureguide@comcast.net

Sunday, October 5, 2025

10/5/25 Report - Fall Metal Detecting Season Starting with Early Sand Movement. Record Metals Prices. TBR Principles Being Validated.

 

Written by the Treasureguide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.


Source: nhc.noaa.gov.

Today I'll start by looking ahead.  We have another system out there that has a good chance of becoming a cyclone.  It is headed this general direction, but it is too early to say exactly where it will go.  


Present Surf Chart for the Fort Pierce Jetty Area from Surfguru.com.

We have another day of six-to-seven-foot surf predicted.  That is a good level, especially combined with the really nice high tides we're having now.

In recent years November has been a good detecting month, with some very nice old beach finds made in 2022 and 2024.  We are getting off to a good start with some early sand-moving weather.

The beach cam clip below, shows a nice stretch of eroded dunes.  Too bad the dunes are made of renourishment sand.  At least some of it is being moved.

Fort Pierce Jetty Beach Cam South Zoom View taken Sunday Evening.

This is the area where a few days ago I showed a cut starting to develop lower on the beach and then being washed out by higher incoming water.

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Gold prices have been setting records on an almost daily basis, but silver has surged by even more, up 64.5% so far this year compared to 47.6% for gold and closing in on its all-time high of $49.95/oz recorded in 1980...

Gold typically thrives in a low interest rate environment, and investors are pricing in a 97% probability of a 25 basis point rate cut in October and an 85% likelihood of another similar reduction in December, according to CME Group's FedWatch tool...

Here is the link for more about that.

Silver squeeze that has propelled prices near record high is set to ease, analyst says

Last week the price of gold was well above $3909 per oz.  That is a new record level.

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I mentioned the many Sheriff cars at John Brooks Saturday.  Eric H. sent the following email about that.

I saw you wrote about the police being at John Brooks this morning. I was there detecting early this morning and I saw something in the surf that I thought was a small tree trunk so I ignored it. A little later a resident walking his dog came up to me and struck up a conversation. Among other things he told me he had found a bale of marijuana in the surf and he had called the police (apparently the"log" I saw was a bale of pot). The police showed up on foot a little later and apparently confirmed what it was because soon after other officers on four wheelers showed up and took it and drove up and down the beach looking for more.

In other news, I found modern clad and aluminum today and even that was few and far between.
Thanks for the great blog!

Eric


Thanks for sharing Eric.  

I haven't had the time to report much about recent finds yet, but am always glad to share your finds with all the readers.  There has been a lot of other information to pass along...

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I was researching one of the newer metal detectors and in the process saw a variety of YouTube videos on various topics such as depth and target ID.  It seems the YouTubers have been discovering what we've been talking about in this blog for the last twenty years or so.  

The good thing is that the YouTubers are validating many of the principles we discussed in this blog many years ago, and with a variety of the newer detectors.  

For example, I saw one test reporting on the Manticore conductivity numbers produced by a large number of different items.  Gold items, for example, produced conductivity numbers that ranged from around 1 to 99 - in other words, nearly the entire range.  

I reported on similar tests I conducted with the Garrett Ace and Equinox, for example.  Those tests also showed a very broad range of conductivity numbers produced by gold items.  The point is that if you don't want to miss any gold items, it is a risk to skip numbers at any range of the scale. 

Way back I discussed the danger of trying to identify or discriminate items if you were trying to find gold.  With the current high price of gold, I wouldn't want to miss gold,  Gold isn't as easy to ID as a common coin.  Not only does it come in a wide variety of shapes and sizes, but it is almost never pure gold.  It is usually an alloy.

Of course there are many reasons given to use discrimination or target ID for D/N (dig/no dig) decisions.  I won't get into that all again now, but I will in the future be discussing a number of topics related like this in more detail.  

The good thing I'm seeing is that the principles we've been talking about for ever are being validated by the many YouTubers testing some of the newer detectors.


I also hope to get into recent finds soon too.

Good hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Saturday, October 4, 2025

10/4/25 Report - What Some Treasure Coast Beaches Looked Like Today. There Are a Few Cuts to be Found.

 

Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.


John Brooks Beach Saturday Morning.

Saturday morning I found my Equinox had not charged overnight.  That is not the first time.  One thing I don't like about the Equinox is the recharging mechanism that seems to get dirty and needs cleaning periodically.  I wish the recharging surface was covered somehow rather than being exposed to the elements, especially salt spray.

But since the Equinox failed to charge, I used my Garrett ATX, which I hadn't used much, it at all so far, this year.  The ATX is actually a more powerful metal detector, but it is the heaviest detector I've ever held, and not the easiest to operate, especially if you haven't put in some serious time with it.  As powerful and deep seeking as it is, it is not for everyone. 


John Brooks Beach Saturday Morning.


I first visited John Brooks.  I think drugs were washing up on the beach or something.  Several sheriff's cars were there.

One thing I noticed upon arriving at the beach this morning, was the large amount of seaweed covering much of the flat beach.  That is usually not a good sign.  It indicates that the beach is probably building.

You can see the photos of John Brooks above.  It was still a couple hours before low tide.



Frederick Douglass Beach Saturday Morning.


My next stop was Frederick Douglass, and as usual, it looked very much like John Brooks.  It also had seaweed and no cuts.


Frederick Douglass Beach Saturday Morning.


I then stopped at Walton Rocks.  It was similar.  

I didn't walk up around the bend to the north at Walton Rocks.


Walton Rocks Beach Saturday Morning


To the south at Walton Rocks, you would see where the water had washed up onto the dunes.  I saw some older sand a scoop or two down at some spots.  There were some coins there too.


Walton Rocks Beach Saturday Morning.


It seems things were similar to the north today.  DJ sent the following photos from Turtle Trail as it looked today.


Turtle Trail Saturday 
Photo by DJ.

Turtle Trail, like the beaches on South Hutchinson Island that I saw today, showed seaweed accumulation.


Turtle Trail Saturday.
Photo by DJ.


DJ found a few modern targets near the water line way to the south.  Looks like right around low tide.

He never saw any of the orange sand, even after taking several scoops.

He did see some fabric from an erosion control bag, as shown below.


Fabric From Erosion Control Bag at Turtle Trail Saturday.
Photo by DJ.

Thanks for sharing DJ.


So, a lot of the Treasure Coast beaches, even those far apart, were similar.

I did have a good idea of where to go to find some eroded dunes.  If you paid attention to some of the pictures I've been posting, you'd know too.  In fact, I just checked, and the cut is still showing on a beach cam.


Eroded Dunes.

I decided to do some easy hunting before I quit for the day so I went where I thought I could make some quick and easy finds.

I tried to take some good photos of the cuts I found but mistakenly ended up with some selfies.  You can still see a little of the dune erosion over my shoulder in the photo above.  

The dunes showed a two-to-three-foot cut both north and south for probably at least a hundred yards in both directions.  Unfortunately, the dunes there were from recent renourishment projects.  There were a lot of targets, many shallow, but also some deeper ones.

  
One of the Crusty Coins Dug below the Erosion.

I found myself actually wishing that somebody had been there earlier to thin out some of the targets so I could focus on deeper stuff.  I didn't have the right detector for quickly skimming through so many targets.  I started out the morning thinking I'd search the low tide zone for deep targets.

But here is my main point today - if you really want to find some better detecting spots, sometimes you'll have to check a lot of areas before finding what you want. They best spots won't always be the first place you stop and they might not be right in front of the beach access.


Looking ahead...


Source: nhc.noaa.gov.

We'll have continued high surf for a few more days.

Good hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net