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Monday, November 24, 2025

11/24/25 Report - Titanic Gold Watch Recovered and Sold. Strong Wave Forces and Coin Flipping (Part VIII of series). Licoreria La Bodega Bottle.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.



A gold pocket watch recovered from the body of one of the richest passengers on the Titanic has fetched a "record-breaking" £1.78m at auction.

Isidor Straus and his wife Ida were among the more than 1,500 people who died when the vessel travelling from Southampton to New York sank after hitting an iceberg on 14 April 1912.

His body was recovered from the Atlantic days after the disaster and among his possessions was an 18 carat gold Jules Jurgensen pocket watch...

Here is the link for more about that.

Titanic passenger's watch fetches record price at auction

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I recommend reading chapter 8 of the document I referred to in a recent post.  It gives many examples of the amazing force of rough seas on structures.  In many cases the surf moved concrete blocks or stones of many tons.  Chapter eight begins in page 124 of the book.  Unfortunately, the document is not easy to navigate, but if you manage to read the chapter, you will undoubtedly be surprised by the amazing feats of strength accomplished by the force of water.  The chapter describes many examples of blocks of many tons being lifted or moved unbelievable distances.

Here is that link.

Wave Action in Relation to Engineering Structures - Google Books

Dynamometers were placed to measure the water force, such as on the structure diagramed below.  Each circle represents the location of a dynamometer.


Here is a short excerpt describing some results.


Thousands of pounds per square foot!

You might be surprised to learn that great force was exerted as the water was forced up in a vertical direction.  The dynamometer at the top of the structure recorded that force at thousands of pounds per square foot.  That reminded me of the times I've seen coins being flipped up over the face of a beach cut and explains how that can happen.

The main point being that the amount of force exerted by waves striking a structure is huge, and a similar force is exerted upon a beach and objects on the beach.  The force during rough seas is certainly enough to move coins and other objects very significantly.  Just to repeat - we are talking about rough seas.  With smaller waves, you get small forces.

In my last post, I suggested an experiment that demonstrates how a sudden force, such as a puff of air, can cause a coin to jump.  I hope you tried it for yourself.  The similar thing undoubtedly happens with water.

I won't get into the many ways that the fluid can act on irregular surfaces.  If you've ever tried to maintain a stable position while metal detecting in rough seas waist or chin high, you know that before each wave breaks it will push and then pull you in the opposite direction repeatedly.  In the past I've described my technique for dealing with that, but it has to be recognized that the effect of the water is multifaceted, at times pulsing and under certain circumstances even creating a vacuum.  


I know my series got pretty detailed, and at times academic, but I think some of you will benefit from a greater understanding the processes involved.  You can actually see these things happening on the beach.  

I didn't start this post intending to make it Part VIII of the series, but that is how it turned out.  

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I just added this green embossed Licoreria La Bodega bottle to the tgbottlebarn.blotspot.com site.




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Today we have a stronger east wind on the Treasure Coast, but the surf hasn't increased much yet.  Seems like every year we have some windy days when I start putting up my Christmas decorations.


Surf Chart for the Fort Pierce Jetty Area from Surfguru.com.


As you can see from the above chart, the surf hasn't increased yet, and we can see that on the beach cam.

Fort Pierce Jetty Beach Cam (South Beach Zoom View) Around 10 AM.

The surf is a little rougher, but not much.

Looks like three or four feet by the weekend.

Good hunting,
Treausreguide@comcast.net

Sunday, November 23, 2025

11/23/25 Report - Part VII of How Coins Move Series: Flipping Coins. Another CA Gold Rush. Not Getting Lost in Your Detector.

 

Written by the Treasureguide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.

CA locals keep finding leftover Gold Rush loot© Fox40 News


Local residents keep finding leftover gold from California Gold Rush, 1 man says you can find $15K some days. How to cash in.

It’s been more than 170 years since California’s Gold Rush — but locals are once again finding gold dust, flakes and even nuggets glittering in the state’s rivers.

“Gold’s all around,” said Manny Goza, a prospector sifting through the Bear River, in an interview with FOX40 News. (1) The low water levels during the fall make it easier to reach stretches of the river that are usually inaccessible....

“I did it every day. I've been here since 2005, bought a house in 2010 because I could pay my bills off the gold,” he said. “When I’m not contracting, I’m here digging gold.”..

With gold prices up more than 50% over the past 12 months, the precious metal is drawing renewed attention from locals looking for opportunity in their own backyard...

Here is the link for the rest of that article.

Local residents keep finding leftover gold from California Gold Rush, 1 man says you can find $15K some days. How to cash in


Gold prices have dropped a bit from their all time highs, but are still up over $4000, which is still high.

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I've done several posts on how coins move on a beach, but up to this point I've mostly provided background on the processes.  It has been pretty academic.  After all that I am finally getting close to the conclusion. This will be Part VII of the series.

Yesterday I posted the following excerpt about a 21000 pound of concrete that was not only moved, but lifted, by a large wave.


Below is the link to the source document, which is all about waves.  The source is very mathematical and definitely not easy reading, so I am just posting the excerpt.  

Wave Action in Relation to Engineering Structures - Google Books

If a wave can move a 21,000 pound block of concrete, as described in the excerpt, you can imagine how a smaller wave could move a coin.

There are a few things to notice however.  First, the block was much wider than tall. The top and bottom had a lot of surface area.

Another thing to notice is that the concrete block, or slab, was sitting on a pile of rubble, which would be easily moved and allow the water the get in under the slab.

Coins also have a flat profile and would often be sitting on a loose movable surface material such as sand and shell.  Of course, the coin being much smaller would require less force than a large concrete slab. 

Take a look at the first half of this video.

Bing Videos

It shows a coin that appears to jump into a cup.  It might look a little mysterious until you know it works.

The secret, which the video reveals, is that the coin was actually moved by a puff of air.  

In order to get the picture, you can prove it for yourself by doing this experiment.

I did it myself.  I used the three coins shown below (dime, nickel and corroded zinc penny)


I blew a good quick puff of air over each coin.  The puff had to be strong.   I did the same thing with all three coins multiple times and observed what happened.

The penny really jumped off the surface and moved a good distance.  The dime didn't jump as high and didn't move as far.  And the nickel moved very little, and didn't jump off the surface at all. The nickel moved only about one fourth the distance of the diameter of the nickel.  

The results seemed to go right along with the how you'll find the different coins organized on the beach. Pennies at the top or bottom of a coin line, with dimes in between, and nickels towards the opposite top or bottom from the pennies.  I didn't use a quarter, and suspect that it would have moved less than the nickel.  And quarters are usually found closer to the water than pennies and dimes when there is a coin line except when the coins are washing in rather than out and down the slope.

I hope you will try the experiment for yourself, at least with a penny, so you can see how the puff of air causes it to jump.

 In the water the force would be from moving water, such as under a crashing wave.

I mentioned that the large slab of concrete was sitting on rubble and how that might be a significant factor.

To give some air under the coin, I put the dime and nickel a small distance apart, and the penny over the gap, then I repeated the experiment.  This time, as I suspected, the penny jumped even more.  The empty space under the penny definitely resulted in greater movement from the puff.

The coins in this experiment were on a flat surface except for the penny that was kept off the surface by the other coins.  As I've said before, if covered by a stationary layer of sand, they aren't going to be moved by water.  

Coins on or near the surface will be moved similarly by crashing waves, which will act repeatedly on any exposed coins.  With a crashing wave there would be a crashing force following by a surge of water that would push the exposed and dislodged coins until the force diminishes enough to drop the coins.

I'll continue with this series and include address the effect of tides very soon.

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Here is a hint for finding the posts in the How Coins Move series.  I have been including Part I, Part II, etc. as keywords posts in the series so if you want to find Part IV, for example, enter that in the blog's key word search box, which you will find at the top of the blog page.

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I was surprised that my posts on remote viewing were so popular, yet nobody attempted or reported on their attempts at my little experiment to remote view a site I had in mind.  

While remote viewing is a topic of interest and has been used by our intelligence agencies, it is widely accepted that only select individuals have the ability to perform it remote viewing effectively.  Many people consider it to be nonsense.  The interest in the posts related to the topic tells me that there are many people who are interested in it though.

Many people are not comfortable with introspective pursuits even though mind altering drugs are epidemic.  In the case of mind altering drugs, the emphasis is on the drugs, which reflects a materialistic view of the world.  The drug is a physical substance that alters mental state.  That is a matter over mind world view rather than a mind over matter perspective.

People don't seem to think much anymore.  They use fact checkers and AI to do their thinking for them, which leaves them mentally weak.  I take a rather extreme mind over matter perspective.  

A metal detector is not the only way to find things.  A metal detector is just one tool  A metal detector essentially extends the senses, very much like the telescope, microscope or other scientific instruments do.  A metal detector adds a sensory input modality.  The metal detector senses and provides the operator with a reading of electromagnetic fields primarily under the coil. It is engineered to focus on the electromagnetism fields under the coil rather than interfeerence coming from other sources such as electrical cables or lightning.

You might remember the little article I once referred to about how some people are able to sense magnetic fields.  See Some People's Brains Can Sense Earth's Magnetic Field—but No, It Doesn't Mean We Have Magnetoreception 'Superpowers'  

If you put less emphasis on your detector, you might notice more of what is around you.  You might make more finds visually. You'll notice more about your environment.  You might notice the feel of the sand under your feet.  Is it hard packed or loose newly accumulated sand, for example. That is something you can benefit by noticing.

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Source: SurfGuru.com.

The surf chart shows some increasing surf in the near future.  It has been flat for quite a while.

Good hunting,

Treausreguide@comcast.net

Friday, November 21, 2025

11/21/25 Report - Power of Water on Objects. Lead Seal Found. First Treasure from San Jose. Shark Tooth Capital of World.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.




Archaeologists discover grand-ducal seal from time of Ivan III in Moscow...

On one side of the seal there is an image of St. George the Victorious, on the other – the inscription: “Seal of Prince Ivan Vasilievich the Great”. Such seals were used to fix important foreign and internal political documents of that epoch...

Here is the link for more about that.

Archaeologists discover grand-ducal seal from time of Ivan III in Moscow  | Partners | Belarus News | Belarusian news | Belarus today | news in Belarus | Minsk news | BELTA

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Colombia has recovered gold and bronze coins, a porcelain cup and a cannon from a sunken Spanish warship dubbed the “holy grail of shipwrecks.”

The artifacts are the first treasures to be recovered from the wreckage of the San José, a Spanish galleon that was sunk by the British Royal Navy in the Caribbean more than 300 years ago.

At the time of its sinking, during the War of the Spanish Succession, the San José had been carrying large amounts of gold, silver and emeralds from Spanish colonies in Latin American back to the Spanish king.

Collectively, those treasures are believed to be worth billions of dollars in today’s money and they are at the center of a heated legal dispute between the Colombian government and a US-based marine salvaging company named Sea Search-Armada (SSA).

Here is the link for more about that.

Colombia recovers first treasures from 300-year-old ‘holy grail of shipwrecks’

There are a lot of stories about this shipwreck in the media - always using the "Holy Grail of Shipwrecks" line..  

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VENICE, Fla. —

Dr. Harry Maisch, a paleontologist at Florida Gulf Coast University, has made a groundbreaking discovery: several shark and ray species in fossil form —never before recorded in Florida.

Just off Venice’s coast, beneath the Gulf waters, fossils of ancient creatures lie buried in the sand. These aren’t just the big, famous ones, like megalodon teeth, but tiny microfossils, too...

The new finds help scientists reconstruct ancient sea levels, water temperatures, and ecosystems from millions of years ago.

Some of the species he identified are globally extinct, and the discovery marks the most diverse fossil shark-and-ray community ever documented in Florida...

Here is that link.

Paleontologist uncovers a lost world beneath Florida's Gulf Coast

Venice is known as the "shark tooth capital of the world."

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I'll be getting back to my series on how coins move, but here is just a short and amazing example for now.


This is from a book entitled Wave Action in Relation to Engineering Structures. 

I'll have more of it for you in the future.

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The surf remains small.

Good hunting,

Treasureguide@comcast.net

Thursday, November 20, 2025

11/20/25 Report - Recent Treasure Coast Coin Find Getting Cleaned. Iron Age Ingot Found. Calm Surf on the Treasure Coast.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report. 


Find by Jame R.


You might remember this item found by James R.  I posted it before it was cleaned.  

James said he cleaned his find a bit more.  Now you can see what definitely looks like a Florenza cross.  And the coin looks like it is probably a Mexico half reale.

James said he now wishes he had stayed another day.  That is how it is when you realize you found something good.  You wish you had metal detected longer.  I've told those stories about my own experiences.  I always say make hay while the sun shines (figuratively).  Actually, it is more likely to be when the sun doesn't shine and the wind howls.   

I can still see some sand and shells adhering to the coin, which should come off easily with a little more cleaning.  A white vinegar solution would probably do it.

I showed one of my finds that needs better cleaning, but I think it is going to take electrolysis, which I haven't gotten around to doing yet.

Back in October I said I thought enough sand was moved that some cobs would be found.  I'm aware of at least a few half reales that were found back then.

Nice find James.  Congratulations.  

Most people will always remember their first Spanish shipwreck coin find.  I do even though it has been well over forty years ago.

James made this find up by Bonsteel, which as you probably know, has produced a lot of half reales.  In his earlier email James said the cut there was like eight feet high.

I just got another photo from James after some additional cleaning. You can see more of the design now, but I still cannot make out the other side. Here it is.

Same Coin After Additional Cleaning.


That is a very good photo and shows a strong strike.
  
The castle and lion is now showing nicely.

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A rare complete plano-convex ingot is composed of a copper-zinc-tin-lead alloy, typical of the Iron Age.
Credit: University of Gothenburg

The results show that unique, isolated finds, which are traditionally considered very difficult to interpret, can be given historical context and contribute to our understanding of the past when carefully analyzed through an interdisciplinary approach that includes both archaeological and natural science methods...

The study uses well-established analytical methods in archaeometallurgy (which is the branch of archaeology specialized in the study of ancient metals), such as lead isotope and trace element analyses of metal finds. Such methods have been used since the 1980s to investigate the composition and the origin of the metal (in the sense that they enable pointing out the minerary region from which the metal was extracted).

“What is new in this study is that we went a step further, and by combining the obtained data with known historical and archaeological information, we managed to propose a historical context, for both the unique Särdal plano-convex ingot and the rod ingots from the Iława Lakeland area in northeastern Poland. Given the astonishing similarity of the metal composition in all those artifacts, we also manage to strengthen earlier hypotheses about contacts and networking in the Baltic area during the Nordic pre-Roman Iron Age,” ...


Here is the link for more about that.


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Surf Chart from Surfguru.com.

The morning high tide was still pretty high, but the surf is very calm.

Good hunting,
Treasureguide@comcast.net














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‘I own stamps so rare only King Charles has the same ones’


The 11 Most Controversial Stamps in U.S. History | HISTORY


-The 10 Most Valuable U.S. Stamps---



'Gold coins started appearing one after another': 1,400-year-old hoard with money and jewelry unearthed near Sea of Galilee



conditions will normally settle into the sand via episodic scour processes driven by storms and inlet migration, favoring preservation of heavier artifacts and hull parts. The


Wednesday, November 19, 2025

11/19/25 Report - Coin Market Makes Strong Showing. Auction Highlights. TreasureGuide Metal Detecting Music Awards.

 

Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.


Yesterday I was talking about collecting and investing in coins.  The recently closed Sedwick auction did quite well, hitting the 5-million-dollar mark.  Below are some of the highlights.






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I thought I'd do something whimsical today.  It is my first and last - ever - TreasureGuide Metal Detecting Music Awards.  

First goes to Connie Francis and Where the Boys Are.  Every time I hear that song it takes me back to Fort Lauderdale Beach and Spring Breaks of long ago.  Youth was busting out all over.  Fort Lauderdale was the first beach I spent much time on in any way and a beach I later spent a lot of time metal detecting.

The Top Group award goes to Rolling Stones.  Bonus points for longevity.  All of us as detectorists know You Can't Always Get What You Want.

Second top group award goes to the Beach Boys.  The name of the group says it all, but if you ever used a Vibra metal detector, you know the significance of digging all the good vibrations.  Vibra detectors were underwater detectors that vibrated instead of using sound.

Third group in this category is the Temptations.  If you love metal detecting, you know how it is to feel like you have sunshine on a cloudy day. 

Top performer goes to James Brown.  Everybody knows that when his goodie bag wears out, Papa got a brand new bag.  I've once told a funny story about a goodie bag with a hole in it.

Second top group award goes to Jerry Lee Lewis.  When you got a fresh scoop full of slightly wet sand, you know there's gonna be a whole lot of shakin going on.

Third in the top performer category goes to M. C. Hammer.   You know how it is when you are digging a hole and the wave fills it faster than you can dig it.  You know it's there, but you just can't touch it.

Top performer in the women's class is Tina Turner. Always reminds me of mudlarking bottles rolling down the river. 

Here is one from the Way-Back category for when your feeling real lucky - I'm looking over a four-leaf clover.  How Much is that Doggie in the Window, would have tied, but I couldn't come up with a MD connection.  

Top live concert goes to Pink Floyd at the Pittsburgh Civic Center arena.  First row stage left with.  

There are other honorable mentions, but I'll end it there.

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 Today's Treasure Coast surf chart is really flat.  Might be some nice water hunting,

I'll get back to my how coins move series when I get a chance.

Good hunting,

Treasureguide@comcast.net


Tuesday, November 18, 2025

11/18/25 Report = Collecting and Investing in Coins and Bullion Including Spanish Colonial.

 

Here is an excerpt from an article about the best Spanish coins to buy.

Here are their top picks from 2024.

  1. Eight-Real Cob Coins: These coins are highly sought after for their historical significance and unique appearance. Coins from famous shipwrecks, like the Atocha and 1715 Fleet are particularly valuable.
  2. Potosí Mint Eight-Real Cob Coins: Known for their high silver content, these coins played a crucial role in global trade during the Spanish colonial period.
  3. Pillar Dollar (Milled Coins): Featuring the iconic Pillars of Hercules, these coins are a symbol of Spain’s influence and are prized by collectors for their detailed designs.
  4. Gold Escudos (Shields of Gold or Doubloons): These gold coins, minted in various denominations, are highly valued for their rarity and historical significance. They often feature intricate designs and are associated with Spanish colonial wealth.

Here is the link.

Expert Reviews: Which Spanish Coins Are the Best to Buy Now? | Commodore Coins & Collectibles, Ltd.

I wouldn't be surprised if they are suggesting the coins they have in inventory.

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Here is an excerpt from an article that gives a sample of Colonial Coin values from 2025 eBay listings.

Spanish Colonial Coin Values

Millions of coins were minted in the Spanish colonies, so heavily worn samples are not hard to find, nor are they necessarily expensive. Some can be had for just a few dollars. On the other hand, pristine coins can command very high prices.

Since such large numbers of Spanish colonial coins exist, and more are yet to be discovered from shipwrecks and treasure chests, comprehensive lists of the most valuable ones are hard to come by. Here’s a list of 10 recent top-quality coins for sale on eBay to give you a sense of the high end of the current market. Bear in mind that these are asking prices, so the final sale amount could be lower (or higher).

Description

Grade

Asking Price

1715 Shipwreck 8 Escudos 1714 “Date on Reverse”

NGC 63

$65,000.00

1715 Shipwreck 8 Escudos Gold Cob Doubloon

NGC 62

$50,000.00

1715 Shipwreck 8 Escudos Gold Cob "Full Date”

NGC 58

$48,500.00

1818 Small Planchet New Spain Fernando de Bexar Silver ½ Real

Not given

$39,500.00

1715 Shipwreck 8 Escudo Dated Gold Doubloon

NGC 55

$34,950.00

1715 Shipwreck 8 Escudos Dated Gold Doubloon

NGC 58

$32,500.00

1760 Mexico 8 Escudos Colonial Doubloon

Not given

$29,995.00

1715 Shipwreck 1714 8 Escudos Gold Cob

NGC 64

$29,500.00

1733 Shipwreck 8 Escudos Gold Doubloon

NGC 55

$29,500.00

1714 8 Escudos 1715 Fleet Gold Cob

NGC 64

$27,500.00

Here is that link.


Collecting Spanish Colonial Coins


Of course there are many excellent quality coins available for considerably less.

I wouldn't put too much stock in eBay. The most recent Sedwick auction will be more telling.

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... Coins and other collectibles can add a level of diversification for the right client, Wennersten said.

"Like most speculative investments that produce no cash flow, appreciation potential depends on the specific investment, and we won't know how good the investment was until we have the benefit of time," he said. "Gains on rare coins can be significant."...

Many investors prefer to buy coins that have been independently certified by third parties as to authenticity and condition.

Jonathan Dane, founding partner and chief investment officer at Defiant Capital Group in Warrendale, Pennsylvania, works with clients who hold physical precious metals as a diversifier in the context of their overall investment strategy.

For purchases, Dane said he steers clients toward highly liquid coins with low markups — like American Gold Eagles, Krugerrands and American Silver Eagles — rather than bars or collectibles, which can have wide bid-ask spreads.

"Liquidity and pricing transparency matter far more than novelty," he said.

Because scams in the space are common, Dane said he only sends clients to vetted dealers his firm knows.

"I advise against online purchases where authenticity and pricing are harder to verify," he said....

McNinch et al. (2006), studying artifact deposition in a similar shallow, energetic

Here is the link for much more about that.


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The Treasure Coast surf will remain near flat for the next week.

Good hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net