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Friday, April 30, 2021

4/30/21 Report - Various Finds From Various Places. Detectorist Finds Medieval Sword and Accessories.

 

Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.

Source: See Live Science link below.


A man using a metal detector has unearthed a medieval sword that might have served as a weapon during the Battle of Grunwald in 1410. 

Alexander Medvedev discovered the sword near Olsztyn, in northern Poland, alongside the metal remains of a scabbard, or sheath; a belt; and two knives that would have been attached to the belt, the local governmental Marshal's Office of Warmia and Masuria reported in a translated news release on April 22.

"Such a find is found once in decades," archaeologists said, according to the statement...

Here is the link for more of that article.

Medieval sword unearthed in Poland might be from Battle of Grunwald | Live Science

There are a couple of good rmeinders there.  I doubt if the sword was found first, althought it could have been.  In either case, when you find one good thing, search the area well for related items.

Notice the hook, buckles and other items that go with the sword.

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Recent Beach Finds by Christopher N.

Christopher said, Here are some finds I got the other day in Daytona while working the upper tide line I found lots of pennies as usual some dimes two quarters and rusty nails, pop tops, and other trash.
No silver or gold this run...

Christopher found a 10K ring, silver ring, and a fake escudo at the beach.  He also recently found a silver cross and skull ring at the beach.

On another hunt at an inland old camp site he found the following balls and buttons.

Recent Inland Finds by Christopher N.


Chris said since it got warm people have been swimming.   Like I always say, "There is always some place to hunt and something to find."  Adapt to whatever is going on.


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I went to the beach Wednesday and found the following along with a few coins.


Recent Beach Finds.

The 10K ring is missing the gem stone, but the 14K earring has some diamonds.

I also went on a bottle hunt yesterday, but struck out on that one.  I did find three almosts on that hunt. I found three bottles that would have been good finds if they weren't broken.

I found the top of a Coca Cola Soda Water Bottle.  The one with embossed stars. They are nice bottles. 

I also found a blown brown blob-top bottle.  Probably an old beer bottle.  It had a broken top.

The other was an older ABC  (Anheuser Busch Company) bottle - also broken.

So I was close on a few, but the good ones were all damaged.

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USPS reportedly tracking Americans' social media posts (nypost.com)

Bank of America is working with the FBI to hunt down Trump-supporters - American Thinker

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The first session of  the current Sedwick treasure auction goes live in just one week - May 7.

We are still having good tides but a small surf.

Happy hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net


Wednesday, April 28, 2021

4/29/21 Report - Sutton Hoo Treasure. Treasure Coast Beached Whale. Selecting Metal Detectors.

 

Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.

Helmet From Sutton Hoo Treasure.
See the British Museum link below.

William K. and JamminJack sent me links to an article about the Sutton Hoo Treasure, which is said to be the most valuable treasure ever found on British soil. The helmet shown above is just one of the many truly amazing artifacts from that treasure, which was found by an amateur archaeologist in 1938 and 1939.  

Here is a link for more about the Sutton Hoo treasure.

The Anglo-Saxon ship burial at Sutton Hoo | British Museum

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9-Ton Sperm Whale Beached At Herman's Bay Last Saturday.

It appears that the sperm whale that died on a St. Lucie beach last Saturday had ingested a rope.

Here is a link for more about that.

Sperm whale swallowed rope then died at Herman's Bay beach in St. Lucie County (msn.com)

One of the things detectorists don't get enought credit for is all 

of the junk removed from the beaches.  Many detectorists remove litter besides the metal they dig up.  With all of the talk about microplastics these days, how about all of the nails, screws, pulltabs, used batteries and other miscellaneous metal junk that litters the beaches.

On a related topic, I understand that somewhere along South Indian River Drive there is an entire railroad tanker car buried in one person's backyard.  It has been declared hazardous, but the railroad, that presumably was responsible for burying it, refuses to remove it.  

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In my 4/14 post, I posted an image that JamminJack sent to me that showed a fellow holding a pole-like object on Sebastian beach that looked something like the item shown below.  Jack wondered if anyone could tell what it was.  Galen C. said it might be a telescoping scoop/sifter like the one shown below.


That could be it.

Thanks Galen.

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I've talked about using multiple detectors on a single site.  Different metal detectors have different strengths and weaknesses.  The Ace, as I've pointed out, works well under and around power lines while other detectors have more trouble with that.  That is just one example.

You might ask why anyone would purchase two or three metal detectors when you can get one good detector that has all the bells, whistles, and adjustments that allows it to be adjusted for any situation.  I have multiple answers for that, but one that sticks out most for me is if you rely upon one a single detector to do everything for you, when that detector breaks, you are pretty much out of business.  On the other hand, if you have two or three detectors, and one goes in for repairs, you still have the others to work with.  It can be weeks before a metal detector is repaired and returned to you.

I personally like having independent units, so if one goes down you still have the others to work with.  I also like not having to make so many adjustments when moving from one environment to another.  It is more like selecting the right golf club for the situation rather than adjusting one tool to various situations.  , 

A detector that can do many things well can be a real advantage, but there are times when having a second detector with you can save the outing.  If your batteries run down, or you have some kind of other problem with your detector, you might be happy to have a spare detector with you.  Having a spare battery pack or spare batteries can be helpful, but there can be other types of issues that are not so easily solved.

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On the Treasure Coast we are still having some nice big tides along with a small surf.

Happy hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Tuesday, April 27, 2021

4/26/21 Report - Big Tides During Super Moon Cause Little Beach Erosion. Big and Small Stuff From the Ridge.

Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.


John Brooks Monday Before Just Before Low Tide.

The weather is beautiful and the beaches are beautiful, unless you are interested in finding some of that treasure that made the Treasure Coast famous.  

Above you see a little superficial cut running along the high tide mark.  We are having the first Super Moon of 2021 and the tide changes are pretty big.  You can see a big distance between the low tide and high tide marks.  There is very little surf to go along with the big tides.


John Brooks Beach Monday Just Before Low Tide.

Very mushy sand.  The waves are hitting the beach straight on.  No angle at all.


John Brooks Beach Monday Just Before Low Tide.

In front of the beach you can see where the sand is stirred up.  The beache will continue to build.

Back on the Indian River Ridge site, metal keeps coming out of the earth.


Dug Handle.

As you can see, there is still big stuff coming from the small cleared lot I've been detecting.  Above is a handle that just came out of the ground.   For a second, I thought it was going to be a bicycle frame.  Too much watching American Pickers.

Below is a bunch of the heavy iron from the cleared area about of only about a half acre or less, and some areas still haven't been covered.

Dug Railroad Spikes, Bolts, Nuts, Rail Anchors, Plates, etc.


With most of the big stuff removed from some areas, I'm starting to get into some of the smaller finds.  Here are a few of those.



On the left is a thin lead strip.  In the middle is an electrical wire connector.  I had those kind of connectors on my pre-WWII Lionel model trains.   You insert a stripped end of a wire into the little loop and the spring action of the other piece keeps it firmly attached.


Dug H and A Gilbey Gin Half Pint Bottle.

I've dug a couple liquor bottles from that site.  They that metal caps or neck rims.  Nothing good.  Also a few other bottles have surfaced while digging metal items.  This one should be fairly easy to date within a narrow range when I get around to it.

The other day I was talking about the railroad discarding items on property along the tracks. of the dates that occurred and who owned the property then.  It could have been owned by the railroad or sold.  I think it was at some time part of a pineapple plantation and then sold for home sites.

I thought of the pineapple fields when I dug the three scythe blades, but they would have needed those to clear land for the railroad too.  I suspect they belong with the other items and are railroad related, but have no good evidence for that.


Pineapple Plantation Along the Indian River
Source: FloridaStories.onecell.com.

I read that the first pineapple slips were planted in the area around 1881, not far off the time the railroad came through.  I'm pretty sure the area was once part of a pineapple plantation.

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Did you see the Super Moon last night?

More beautiful weather expected, but not much surf.

Happy hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net.

Monday, April 26, 2021

4/25/21 Report - Some Very Recent Finds That Reveal A Little About Treasure Coast and Fort Pierce History.

 

Written by the Treasureguide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.

Silver Palace Pharmacy Bottle Found Sunday.

I recently showed some bottles that I dug on the Indian River Ridge site, but horse-choking mobs of voracious mosquitos chased me off that site this morning, so I decided to take a little walk and see if there were any bottles that would greet me as eagerly as those mosquitos.

The bottles weren't nearly as aggressive as the mosquitos, but a few older ones did peak out enough to catch my attention.

The first I picked up and didn't see much on it, so I quickly pocketed it.  At first I didn't notice anything other than the stopper-top, which suggested a little age.  


Stoneware Master Ink Bottle circa 1890

 I really like stoneware, but seldom find any.   Maybe that is one reason I like it.

This is the second bottle of this type that I've found.  I found the other one nearly ten years ago.  They were found far apart, but bear exactly the same debossing.

Here is what I wrote about the first one in a 2011 post.

After a little quick research I found that the name "J. Bourne and Son" was used first in 1850. I found that a bottle of this type would probably be from 1850-1880.

It is a master ink bottle.  There are many varieties. This one, unlike some that I've seen, has a pouring spout.

They come in different sizes. You saw that if you went to the Odyssey Marine virtual museum.   A lot of these bottles were found on the S. S. Republic. 

It seems the British ink companies almost ran the American ink companies out of business in those days.




Here are the two I've found together.  The one that I found Sunday is the smaller one on the left.


Two Found Stoneware Master Ink Bottles.


They both read as follows:

VITREOUS STONE BOTTLES.
J. BOURNE AND SON
PATENT REG.
DENBY POTTERY
NEAR DERBY
P. AND J. ARNOLD,
LONDON
ENGLAND.

The bottle shown at the top of this post is interesting too, once you can read the embossing.

It reads: 

    THE SILVER PALACE PHARMACY
PRESCRIPTIONISTS
FORT PIERCE, FLA.

I soaked it in white vinegar for a couple hours and then brushed it a little to get the barnical residue off.  That worked well, as I suspected it would.  I didn't clean the inside of that bottle yet, but below is the picture of the cleaned bottle.


Partially Cleaned Silver Palace Pharmacy Bottle.


I always like to find some Treasure Coast history, and this bottle is definitely that.  

Actually all three are.  All of them ended up on the Treasure Coast.   They got here somehow and were probably used here.  

One bottle came form London and the other apparently has Philadelphia connections.  How did they get here?  That gets into transportation and how the locals got their supplies.  It shows how connected the Treasure Coast was. 

From what I've found on the internet, the Silver Palace Pharmacy was formed in 1927 and operated for some time at 2nd and Orange in Fort Pierce.  It became an inactive corporation in about 1965.

I eventually noticed that the first bottle that I pocketed was also enmbossed.


Boericke and Tafel Embossed Bottle.



Here is what I found about Boerickand Tafel. The entire history is online.

In 1850, the 18-year-old Rudolph Tafel met Francis Edmund Boericke, and invited Boericke to assist in some English to German translating. By 1853 they opened a small bookstore, specializing in Swedenborgian literature, at 24 S. 5th in Philadelphia. Upon the suggestion of Constantine Hering, they began to manufacture and sell homeopathic remedies. Within six months of the formation of the partnership, Rudolph Tafel left to assume a teaching position at the Naval Academy in Annapolis, Maryland.

Boericke kept the small book store, enlisting Rudolph's brother, A. J. Tafel, as an apprentice. In 1855, Tafel left for the west.

In 1857 Boericke entered the Homeopathic Medical College of Pennsylvania, but kept his pharmacy operating. In 1862, William Radde, Jr. died, and Boericke bought the Radde pharmacy and kept it running. A. J. Tafel had returned to Philadelphia, and Boericke sold him the pharmacy at 48 N. 9th Street in 1863, keeping the Radde Pharmacy at 635 Arch St. Boericke graduated with his MD degree in 1863.


Here is a link for more about Boericke and Tafel.


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Some people think the cache reported on Twitter that I posted yesterday is fake.  Definitely could be.

So much of what you see these days is fake, whether it is on TV or the internet.  It is difficult to get the real story.  I've talked about that a lot before and won't get into that again.

Some people thought the cache looked "staged."   I'm sure it was to some extent.  

You might not realize how much effort went in to showing the bottles I posted today.  First there was some cleaning so you could see something.  I wiped some of the barnacles and seaweed off for the first photo even though it still has a lot on it.  Then I try to get some good lighting so you can see the item well.  That isn't as easy as it might seem.  You move it around until it shows well.  When taking a photo of glass, a flash will bounce off the glass and blurr the picture, as it did in the second Silver Palace bottle photo.  I let that one go because I thought it was good enough and didn't want to put any more time into it.

You usually can't show a find in its natural state.  Usually it will be buried, so to show it at all takes some staging.  Then the question becomes was there any real deception.  

In the case of the cache I showed yesterday, some people thought it was fake.  As I said it could be.

There was one time when I posted about a person who found a gold coin.  One reader said there was too much sand for gold coins to be found, and they didn't believe it.  They didn't know that the person who made the find was somebody that had found many gold coins that are now part of the State Collection and had no reason to anonymously falsely report a find of much less magnitude than many they had made in the past.  So it can go the other way too.  

Nonetheless, you must always be skeptical these days, esepcially when getting news second hand over the internet or from TV.   

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The tides are big and the surf is small.  That means you can do some good eye-balling

in shallow water,  The tide is going out farther and the visibility is good.


Source: MagicSeaWeed.com.


The surf will be higher tomorrow, but the wind will be mostly from the south.


Eye-balling is a good way to find good metal detecting sites.  If you find an old bottle or shard, you have a clue that there might be some other old stuff in the area.

You don't need a metal detector to find old stuff if you take advanatage of where nature is moving sand or earth for you.

There is always some place to hunt and something to find.  Adapt to conditions.


Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Sunday, April 25, 2021

4/25/21 Report - Super Cache Found by Gold Panner. Anchor Points the Way. New Beach Find. Talking Dug Railroad Items.

 

Written by  the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.


One Beautiful Cache Found by Gold Panners.
Source: Found on Twitter and submitted by Joyce H.

Besides the beautiful old gun and great coins, notice the $500 bills.  Adjusting for the change in purchasing power each one of those would be the equivalent of about $13,000 in today's money.  That is a valuable cache, and the kind of thing many detectorists hope to find.  This shows that it still happens.

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Alberto S. was wondering about the buried spikes.  He learned that iron objects were buried to promote growth of fruit trees and wondered if that might have been the purpose of the many buried spikes I've been finding.  He asked if there were fruit trees on the lot.

Iron is buried to promote growth of trees.  I found the following from the HobbyFarms web site.

I heard a piece of folk wisdom from an Irish gardener. Her sapling apple tree was struggling, and a local woman told her to bury a piece of scrap iron at the base. By the next year, the tree was thriving.

Stories and superstitions like these from gardeners and farmers abound. They’re obviously not based on hard science, but they often come from observations that have been passed through generations.

In this case, what an old piece of scrap iron can add to the soil at the base of a seedling apple tree is rust or iron oxide, which is an under-appreciated plant micronutrient. Iron deficiency, also called iron chlorosis, causes a yellowing of the leaves, and overall lack of vigor. It is often especially prevalent in acidic soils or soils with an excess of copper, manganese or phosphorus...

A Quick Way To Boost Iron In Your Soil - Hobby Farms

I have found iron at the base of planted trees before when detecting up north.  It seemed to me that it was put there for this reason.  However, in the lot I'm detecting, I suspect, as JamminJack has written to me before, that the railroad workers simply buried items that they wanted to discard.   Nonetheless, I have noticed that Surinam Cherry trees (also known as Cherry Hedge trees) were growing right over large piles of spikes.  There are many of them on this lot, but my impression is that they are growing there naturally.  Many of them are growing where there are no buried iron objects. 

Interesting idea.  Maybe you've found iron objects buried at the base of fruit trees.  I once found one iron object under a tree up north that I thought was put under the tree for that purpose.

Joe D. agrees that the railroad items I'm finding were probably just discarded by the railroad workers.  He mentioned that you might not be able to sell railroad items for scrap, otherwise people would be stealing the rails etc.   It is trespassing to go on the railroad right-of-way.

(From the Federal Railroad Administration: It is illegal to access private railroad property anywhere other than a designated pedestrian or roadway crossing.

Alberto mentioned that railroad spikes are selling on the internet. and sent some ads he found. Used railroad spike are sold for crafts.  I also learned that they are also used in witchcraft. 

You can see many spikes currently listed on Etsy.  Here is a link.

Antique railroad spikes | Etsy 

Also there are tons of them for sale on eBay, but I suspect that since they are so common, you'd be better off turning them into something else.  Maybe coat hangers.  Below is a handforged railroad spike knife offered on the internet.




Personally I'm always looking for ways to reuse or repurpose rather than scrap dug items.   I've noticed that some of the rail anchors make a good heavy iron J and  I've seen coat hangers made from spikes.  But it is more the history that I'm after, and I'm also expecting a few more interesting thingse after the big stuff is cleared out.   Maybe some coins or something like that.  I'll switch to a deeper seeking detector then.  For now the Ace is doing good work, and it isn't affected at all by the nearby power lines.

If the items were simply discarded, as I think is the case, I still wonder why the items are so far from the tracks rather than closer to the tracks on railroad property?  The owners of the property would have a valid gripe against the railroad for littering in my opinion.

Speaking of litter - I've recently dug a couple of liquor bottles on the lot.  One has a metal cap and the other a metal rim.



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Anchor Points to Treasure.

In 2005, Gary Randolph, captain of the Huntress salvage vessel, located a part of an Atocha anchor at the southern extreme of the Atocha site.  The Bower anchor, as found in 2005, was only partly complete.  If complete it would be about 13 ft. tall.  The shank points directly towards the center of the Atocha site.  

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The Treasure Coast beaches that aren't being replenished are being visited by good numbers of locals and lingering snowbirds.  As a result there are still some finds to be made.

Below is one recent find.

Gold Bracelet Find.

I was surprised that it is gold.  I didn't think the connectors looked very good.  The stones haven't been tested yet.

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The tides will be big Sunday, but with the offshore wind the surf will be only about one foot.

Happy hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Saturday, April 24, 2021

4/24/21 Report - Pirate Henry Avery Treasure. Tips on Eye-Balling. More On Indian River Ridge.

 

Source: See LiveScience link below.

A handful of Arabian silver coins found in New England may be the last surviving relics of history's most notorious act of piracy — and perhaps one of the most famous pirates who ever lived.

Evidence suggests the distinctive coins were spent as common silver in the American colonies in the late 1690s by the fugitive pirate crew of Henry Every, also known as John Avery, who had fled there after plundering the Mughal treasure ship Ganj-i-sawai as it was returning pilgrims from the Muslim Hajj..

Their discovery has also cast new light on Every's whereabouts shortly before he vanished with his loot. "We can prove beyond a doubt that he actually was in the mainland American colonies," Rhode Island metal detectorist Jim Bailey told Live Science. 

Bailey found one of the first of the Arabian silver coins, called a comassee, in 2014 at the site of a colonial settlement on Aquidneck Island, about 20 miles (32 kilometers) south of Providence

More than a dozen similar coins thought to be from the pirate raid on the Ganj-i-sawai have now been discovered by metal detectorists and archaeologists elsewhere in Rhode Island, and in Massachusetts, Connecticut and North Carolina — maybe the last evidence of one of the greatest crimes in history.

Here is the link for much more of that long article.   (Thanks to William K for the link.)

Silver coins unearthed in New England may be loot from one of the ‘greatest crimes in history’ | Live Science.

Interesting project to link all of the areas where those types of coins were found.

Detectorists, it seems, are getting mentioned in articles like this more often these days.

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Dan B. sent the following email.

I like looking for "road finds".  Over the years I have spotted many valuable things lying in the roadway just waiting for me to pick them up. I have always wondered what kept people from seeing or picking these things up. Tools, wallets, ipods, jackets. Hats and gloves are super common. I guess maybe some people would be embarrassed to run out in traffic and retrieve a 10$ wrench, but not me.  I already have alot of practice saving turtles! Just another form of treasure hunting I guess.

I noticed in my travels a triangle shaped area inside most intersections that intrigues me. They are full of funny objects. Screws, plastic, glass, bolts...you name it. Usually small stuff.  Sifted and moved by tires, weaker materials break and turn to dust, while more resilient items stand the test and get filtered into this area that encounters the least amount of traffic. I still can't decide if it would be considered a trap, or it's value as understanding probabilities or paths but is something I notice often and thought would be fun to share.

Always Looking

Dan B


In the past I did some articles for magazines on eye-balling.  Urban eye-balling can produce good finds.  I've found watches, lost earrings, rings, and gold chains on the streets before, as well as an occasional bill - my highest being a twenty in front of a Bealls.   But a walk along almost any busy road will turn up at least a coin or two.

One time when I was going metal detecting at the beach, early in the morning I parked in front of a beach-side bar, and when I got out of the car there was a gold chain in a puddle in front of the bar.  Didn't even have my detector out yet.

Here is an old post in which I told about one fellow who prospects the city streets in the New York diamond district.



Keep your eyes open in department stores and grocery stores, especially under the racks and on the floor next to the display cabinets, especially the frozen food section.  See if you can figure out why.

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I keep exploring the Indian River Ridge Site.  Now three different holes filled with railroad spike have been dug up.  Each has nearly a hundred, such as the latest (shown below).

Another Pile of Spikes.

This is on only one lot about 125 feet across, so if it is typical, the discarded iron along the railroad is tremendous.  

This pile is used spikes.  Many are very bent.  Now I'd say that the site does not go back to the original construction, (not entirely anyway) but is a accumulation of discarded items over time.

The spike holes are very densely packed.  It is hard to pull them out.

Of course there is also the miscellaneous junk.  The north boundary has the most modern junk.  The center and south side of the lot has very little modern junk.

I've picked up many nails now.  One spot had a lot of nails bent at ninety degree angles, such as those shown below.

Dug Bent Nails and Bottle.

Many more nails were bent at ninety degrees.  This bottle was dug, as were a couple more bottles that didn't have much age.

With the leaf build up over the years, old coins will be deeper.  At some point I'll start using a more deep-seeking metal detector.  So far I've done most of the work with the Ace.


Big Heavy Dug Piece of Metal Along With Spikes.

Over all, there are holes containing quantities of related items.  There are the big spike holes, the holes with scythe blades, the button hole, a couple nail holes, etc., and then there are the scattered individual items.  There is a target every few feet along a north to south strip about a hundred feet across.  When you get a couple hundred feet from the tracks the railroad stuff mostly disappears.  I don't know why so much heavy railroad hardware is buried as far from the tracks as is the case.  The heavy spike holes are a good distance from the tracks, as were the other buried discarded railroad items.   I have noticed a tendency for the heaviest items, such as the big piece of metal shown above, to be closer to the tracks, but still not real close.

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Here is the surf prediction.  There is a nice high tide later today, although the surf is runing only about two or three feet.


Source: MagicSeaWeed.com.

If you can find a spot where the sand isn't accumulating because of some sort of obstruction or something, there might be some sifting going on.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Friday, April 23, 2021

4/23/21 Report - Interpretation of Finds: One Way Things Get Broken and One Type of Error. NASA Launch Seen By Treasure Coast.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.

Source: See LiveScience link below.

A metal detectorist scouring an ancient hillfort has uncovered "one of the biggest Iron Age weapon hoards in western Germany," according to archaeologists at the Regional Association of Westphalia-Lippe (LWL).

The hoard contains more than 150 objects, including deliberately bent weapons, such as 40 spearhead and lancehead tips, swords and fragments of shield bosses (round structures at the center of a shield); tools; belt hooks; horse gear; three silver coins; bronze jewelry; and one fibula, or lower leg bone, Manuel Zeiler, an archaeologist at LWL, told Live Science.

Here is the link.

Iron Age warriors bent the swords of their defeated enemies, ancient hoard reveals | Live Science

That tells you one way that items can get bent or broken - intentionally by enemies.

Also, this is one more of the important discoveries that have been made by detectorists in recent years.

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As you know, it can be difficult to determine the age of found items.  One thing I've learned from experience is that the possible date for items can be earlier than is generally acknowledged.  

Recently I noticed that Steve Jobs was receiving a lot of credit as an amazing visionary for talking about telecommunting back in the 1990s.  That is not so amazing if you know that it was telecommunting was actually taking place a decade or more earlier and written about a couple decades earlier.

Most people think of social media as occurring on personal computers linked by the internet, but that is not the way it started.   I was doing it in around 1979 before the age of personal computers.  And I thought I remembered telecommuting being described futuristically in a book entitled The Electronic Cottage, circa 1980, but I can' find any such book listed anywhere.  Maybe I'm thinking of the book Future Shock (1970) by Alvin Toffler.   I'm not sure about the book that described it now, but I know I was actually telecommuting by1980.

I had moved from an office in the Peachtree Towers in downtown Atlanta to South Florida when I was developing flight training materials for Eastern Airlines. I worked with a group of software developers that was mostly located in Rockville, Md. but I was telecommuting from my home in South Florida while developing software for Eastern, headqaurtered in Miami.  We didn't call it telecommuting then.

I had a computer terminal in my home that was linked to a large mainframe computer in Minneapolis that was the center of an international network.  In the 1970s this system had what we now call email and forums, as well as other advanced software for chatting, sharing computer screens, etc.  On that system email was called pnotes (personal notes), forums were referred to as groupnotes, and chatting was called talk-mode.

My point is that all that existed decades before the public generally became aware of it, and Steve Jobs made his celebrated talk about telecommuting.  Telecommuting was done before the age of personal computers.   People don't realize that, but it is a part of computer history.  

We actually used early forms of flat plasma display screens with touch panels in the 1970s.    The flat panel plasma display screen was invented by Don Bitzer of the University of Illinois.

Here is one similar to one that I used.


And below is an advertisement showing a later IST terminal (I still have one like it in a closet) that was used to access the mainframe computer in Minneapolis (shown on the right).



The network consisted of computer terminals (dumb input/output devices) connected to the mainframe computer in Minneapolis by the telephone system.

Control Data, founded by five fellows from the original UNIVAC project, had a large commitment to computer-based education in the 1970s.  They installed online learning systems in schools and not-for-profit organizations and companies around the country.  There was actually one University of Miami professor that paid something like $400 a month to have a learning system installed in his home for his children some time in the early 1980s.

So you would enter a command on the terminal, and in 0.2 sec. or less, the Minneapolis computer would send the output to the display terminal over the phone lines.  Now personal computers, rather than a centralized computer does the processing, but other than that it is very similar.  Of course the community of people on the network was much smaller, but there were hundreds.

When I first did this, you would remove the cover of a phone (no cell phones then) and attach the terminal to the telephone using alligator clips.  Later came acoustic couplers.  I still have one around somewhere.  

My point, in addition to talking about an early bit of computer evolution that is already being forgotten, is that there is a huge amount of history that is not acknowledged when people talk about firsts.  Things usually happen well before they become known by the larger public.

So what I'm saying today is that what is thought to be the earliest possible date for things, especially found items, is often wrong.  Things often exist and things happen well before they become acknowledged in the general public awareness.  

I could give many more exmaples, but I'll just mention one more thing.  In my recent reading I was surprised by the level of discussion of a round earth presented by St. Augustine in 400 something AD.

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I just watched the space launch.  Viewing was good on the Treasure Coast.  The bright ascending orange light was only lost behind the clouds a couple of times.  I saw the separation and was able to track two bright white lights descending almost to the ocean, where stage 1 was captured by the drone boat.

Our technological accomplishments are amazing while our society descends into a new dark ages.

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It was nice and breezy this morning, but the surf is only around three feet.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Thursday, April 22, 2021

4/22/21 Report - Ring Found and Returned. Mourning Ring Found. Charles and Joanna Mexico Treasure Coins.

 Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.

Ring Returned After 20 Years.
Source: Jacksonville.com link below.

From an ocean floor to its original owner: This ring's 20-year journey was 'a message from God'

About 20 years ago, an American missionary in Honduras was snorkeling off the Caribbean island of Roatán about 40 miles off the mainland. He spotted something glittering on the sea floor and swam down to investigate ...

She knew she couldn't sell it, at least not without first looking for Cenac. “I’m a believer, so I just felt the Lord urging me to find the rightful owner, that there may be a story behind it,” she said in a telephone interview last week.

She turned to Facebook, but it took her some time and effort to find Cenac. His account, he said, had been eliminated by the company in the runup to the election as it cracked down on any sites it thought might be fake.

He had only just managed to get a new account reactivated when Estrada's message came through...

Here is the link for the rest of the story.

Lost ring, found in the Caribbean, back in Jacksonville 20 years later

Thanks to William P. for that lead.

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A 17th century gold and crystal mourning ring was found by a detectorist.

  • The crystal ring was probably made to honor James Stanley, 7th Earl of Derby
  •  Stanley's family ruled the Isle of Man for centuries, starting in the 1400s
  • In the 1600s, mourning rings were given out as mementos when someone died
  • The ring has a gold band and the initials 'JD' on it
  • Stanley, who signed his letters 'J. Derby,' was a supporter of King Charles I 
  • He was beheaded by Cromwell's forces after Charles' defeat in the Civil War 

Here is the link for more of that story.

Gold ring found on Isle of Man was likely made to honor earl executed for treason in 1651 | Daily Mail Online

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In 2020 beach detectorists found a few Charles and Joanna period coins on the Treasure Coast.  They are much older than most of those from the 1715 Fleet.  

See The Treasure Beaches Report Direct From Florida's Treasure Coast.: 4/26/20 Report - Carlos and Joanna Reales. Beach Openings Next Week. Paleovirology. Statistics.

And Treasure Beaches Report Part 2. 2020 and Beyond: 10/25/20 Report - One 16th Century Two-Reale Found Wednesday Examined. Decreasing Surf. (tbr2020.blogspot.com)

Below are a couple Charles and Joanna era coins being offered in the current Sedwick aution.  They are not from the Treasure Coast and are four reales.  The Charles and Joanna coins found last year on the Treasure Coast were two reales.  I know that a couple were.  I wouldn't consider these as comparables, but there are some similarities.   Notice the how round they are, which is different from most 1715 Fleet cobs.



Those are from the Golden Fleece wreck, cica 550.

Similar coins were also found on Padre Island.

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We have a nice north wind today, and some cooler air.  The surf is only two or three feet though.

Happy hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Tuesday, April 20, 2021

4/21/21 Report - More Renourishment. Real Eight Company Gold Bar. A Few Finds. Rome Sacked.

Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.

Wabasso Beach Renourishement.
Source: KnowWhereNews.com.

Wabasso Beach Park is closed through April 30 for beach renourishment,

Here is the link.

https://knowherenews.com/event/AXjbIHIMgaWmPMqEVD97

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Real Eight Company 1715 Fleet Sold in 1977 Bowers and Ruddy Auction.

Source of photo and description: 1977 Bowers and Ruddy auction catalog.

In 1977 Bowers and Ruddy presented an auction that included a large selection of items salvaged by the Real Eight Company.  Included were 720 lots, which included gold and silver coins as well as artifacts.  Of the 1715 Fleet items, the highest realized price was for this 82.25 ounce gold bar, which sold for $10,700.  You might have noticed that comes to about $130 per ounce.  At the close of the auction, the spot price of gold was about $137 per ounce.  The bar was marked as 21.25 karats, so the buyer got a very good deal.  The bar was valued for very close to the spot price of the gold.

The spot price of gold is now about $1785 per ounce, which is about 13 times what it was back in 1977.  That would make the gold in the bar today worth around $146,000.

Since the dollar has in the mean time decreased in purchasing power by 4.4 times, to give the value of the gold in 1977 dollars, would result in a value of  around $33,188.  Still not a bad investment, but not nearly as good once you make the adjustment for the decrease in the value of the dollar.  

I'm very rusty on my grade school math, so if anyone sees a need to correct me, please do so.

I would, however, guess that the 1715 Fleet bar salvaged by the Real Eight Company would sale today for much more than the price of the gold in the bar.  I'm surprised that it originally sold for so close to the value of the gold.  Several factors might have been included.

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During my search of the Indian River Ridge lot I found two stones that give off strong iron signals. They read  minus 8 on the Equinox.

Two Rocks Found on Indian River Ridge Site
That Give Iron Signal on Metal Detector.

I suspect it is probably slag used on the railroad.  In the larger one I can see what appears to be bits of iron on some areas of the surface, but not on the smaller one.  

What do you think?

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A Catholic church was burned in Minneapolis this week.  There was a time when Minneapolis seemed like a very nice city.  Technology companies were headquartered there, and I visited several times.  I took my metal detector along and enjoyed detecting the lakes.  I think it was the Fisher 1280 that I took with me back then.   I found a lot of silver in the lakes - both coins and religious medallions. There weren't many rings.  Maybe I wasn't as good at finding them back then.  At some point I learned to turn down the discrimination on the 1280.  It seemed like the lakes were not being detected much at that time.  The water season would be short in Minneapolis anyhow.

I've been leafing through a book entitled On the Two Cities once again. It is a book of selections from St. Augustine's The City of God, which Augustine wrote in the years just after Rome was sacked by the Goths in 410 AD, The fall of Rome was a shock to the world.  Maybe we're going down a similar path today.  

(By the way, you Italians might want to file for reparations from the Goths.)

In the City of God, St. Augustine traces the history of what he calls the earthly city and the Godly city back to their roots in Cain and Able (Cain of course being the envious murderer of Able, is the father of the earthly city, which is contrasted with the Godly or spiritual city.).  On page 67 of the Two Cities book, you will find the following statement: "Cain was moved by that diabolical, envious hatred with which the evil [persons] regard the good just because the good are good while they themselves are evil."  We see a lot of that kind of hatred today.

St. Augustine's statement immediately reminded me of a line in Disney's Cinderella movie.  When Cinderella asks Lady Tremaine why she is so cruel, Lady Tremaine answers, "Because you are good and kind and innocent, and I ....."   Lady Tremaine stops short of answering.  The answer would sting too much.  But she doesn't need to answer.  The answer is clear.   Hate directed at others has its roots in self-loathing, which is only inflamed by the sight of good and innocence.  Hateful actions increases self-hate, which is recognized at some level but then denied and projected onto others.


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Other than the renourishment projects, nothing much has changed on the beaches.  

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net