9/30/22 Report - Post Ian Finds. And Treasure Beaches Around the Treasure Coast. Some Beaches Closed Today.

 

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Spike and Ball Finds by John E.

Above are some finds made Thrusday by John E.  John said, Found this spike or whatever it is ? Also this musket ball in same area in some really nice original orange sand….. can anyone shed any opinions of the nail/spike? John E.

Here are a couple more photos.

Additional Photos of Same Finds from John E.

Nice finds John.

Please send any and all opinions regarding John's finds.

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Alberto sent the following photos showing Turtle Trail as it looked Thursday.

Turtle Trail Thursday.

Turtle Trail Thursday.

The blue bags are back. 

 Isn't it something how fast all of that renourishment sand got washed away,

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Friday DJ said, Turtle Trail and Seagrape and Treasure Shores park whatever it is all had guards and locked gates. golden sands was the only one open.

DJ sent the following emails.

Golden Sands Friday Morning.

Golden Sands Friday Morning.

Ambersands Friday Morning.

Ambersands Friday Morning.

Rio Mar Near High Tide Friday.

Rio Mar Near High Tide Friday.

Thanks much to Alberto and DJ for sharing.  

I had an exhausting day.  Took one person to the doctor's office and got back and had to turn around and take another person who suffered an injury from a heavy limb.

I'm going to stop there for today.

Good hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net

9/29/22 Report - Widespread Beach Erosion Along the Treasure Coast.

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Turtle Trail Wednesday Afternoon.
Photo by John E.

Yesterday I showed you photos of John Brooks erosion.  While I only visited South Hutchinson Island, the erosion looked like it would be widespread along the Treasure Coast - it ran along most the beach south of Fort Pierce.   John E. sent this photo of Turtle Trail from yesterday.  As you can see, there was erosion there too.  I got word that there was a as much as a seven-foot cut at one location.  The cut in this photo is more on the order of two or three feet.  A lot of that renourishment sand got washed away.

Turtle Trail Wednesday.
Photo by John E.

From what I've seen, although it is limited, I would expect most of the beaches of the Treasure Coast to be similarly eroded.

Thanks much to John E. for the photos.  I really appreciate it.

If you think about the millioins of dollars spent to dump sand on the beaches, now you see those dollars quickly washing away.

The beaches up in north Florida are really getting hit.

This morning, the wind was coming mostly from the south, and where I was, it was coming from the southwest.   It is supposed to come more westerly, which will push some water out, and with the big tides will expose more of the lower beach.

I'll try to get a look at some beaches and might update or add to this post later today.

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There is so much to think about this morning.  Many people lost homes, belongings, and even lives.  I hope you will think about helping those in need.  There are always people in need, but times like this really call us to show what kind of people we are.  Be thankful when you are blessed.  Be thankful for what you have, and help others as you can.

Stay Safe.  

9/28/22 Report - Part II. Treasure Coast Beach Conditions Upgraded.

 

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John Brooks Beach Wednesday Afternoon.

The south wind this afternoon got pretty strong, so I decided I better take a look.  I managed to get out and found six foot cuts at John Brooks and Frederick Douglass.  I got to do a little metal detecting, and there were some finds.  I'll get into that more later.  Right now I just wanted to let you know that south winds were running nearly parallel to the beaches and there was a good angle to the waves, even though they were south winds.

In some places the dune cliff was six feet high.  In others, not quite so much.  

The erosion was pretty wide-spread.  Frederick Douglass was also eroded.  With the little time I had to detect, I didn't stop to take many photos.

John Brooks Beach Wednesday Afternoon.

I just wnated to let you know there was some pretty good erosion going on, and based upon the few beaches that I saw, I am upgrading the beach metal conditions rating.  I would be surprised if the Vero/Sebastian beaches were not eroding too, but I haven't seen them.  Just didn't have enought time to get around.

I rate the beaches as at least a "2," and maybe a three.  

I'll post more when I find time.

TreasureGuide@comcast.net

9/28/22 - Storm Developments and Treasure Predictions and Opportunities. Stay Safe and Help Those Who Need It.

 

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Source: nhc.noaa.gov

The 8 AM morning update from the National Hurricane Center is in.  Looks like Ian will pass north of most of the Treasure Coast.  It looks like it will track up towards Cape Canaveral.  The models seem to be converging on that track.

This morning the Vero/Sebastian area is having the tornado threats, while South Hutchinson Island is pretty quiet, getting a little rain.  Don't overlook the rain, which can erode dunes and uncover some objects.

Fort Pierce Area Surf Predictions.
Source: MagicSeaWeed.com.

As you can see, we're not supposed to get a big surf and the wind and swells will be mostly from the south.  The Vero/Sebastian surf won't be much different.

The Flagler to Jacksonville area will get some nice north winds and bigger surf.  A few days ago I showed an anchor found on Flagler beach.  If you are up that way, I'd definitely take a trip out to the beaches there when you get a chance.

If you are in southwest Florida, you'll want to check out the beaches to see where the storm surge has moved sand.  Not long ago I did some posts on the coin beaches and treasures of West Florida.  Not only might the beaches be good to detect, but they also have some other good hunting, including, but not limited to, shark teeth and shells.  If you are around southwest Florida there should be some good new opportunities, but there are more important things to tend to.  

Help those in trouble and stay safe.  Ian winds got up to 150 miles.  Between the high water and extreme winds, there will be a lot of damage and people that need help.  Stay safe and do what you can for those who need assistance.

I might be back later today to update this post.

Stay safe,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net

9/27/22 Report - 3000-Year-Old Canoe Found. Hundreds of 19th Century Artifacts. Ian To Move Along Florida Coast and Perhaps Make Landfall.

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Remains of 3000-Year-Old Canoe Discovered.

Madison, WI – Wisconsin Historical Society maritime archaeologists, alongside partners from Wisconsin’s Native Nations, recovered a 3,000-year-old dugout canoe from Lake Mendota in Madison today, less than one year after their recovery of a 1,200-year-old canoe that drew international attention in November 2021. Radiocarbon dating performed on the latest canoe places it to 1000 B.C., making it the oldest ever discovered in the Great Lakes region by roughly 1,000 years...

Here is the link for more about that.

Second Historic Canoe Recovered from Wisconsin’s Lake Mendota | Wisconsin Historical Society (wisconsinhistory.org)

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Source: See Stuff.Co link below.

Thousands of items, including the unexplained 1853 coin from Chile shown above,  were found at a archaeological dig at a construction site in New Zealand.

The finds are the latest to be discovered beneath rebuild sites in central Christchurch. In March, hundreds of leather shoes, an ornate clay pipe and intact gin bottles were discovered beneath the site of the new Court Theatre.

The treasure trove uncovered beneath a layer of gravel on the corner of Gloucester and Colombo streets included metal belt buckles, soda water bottles, marbles, grocery store tokens, and shards of decorative plates...

Here is the link for more about that.

Largest archaeological dig in New Zealand unearths thousands of 19th-century treasures | Stuff.co.nz

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Recent predictions seem to show Ian as a major hurricane moving up along the West Coast of Florida, and then moving inland.  It seems like it will strongly affect some very populated areas, like Tampa and St. Petersburg.

The latest NHC cone comes closer to the Treasure Coast.  Ian might come closer to us than previously predicted, and we might actually get some east winds for a while.  It looks like it might linger over land just to the north of us for a while.  The Icon model puts it a little more south than the NHC track.

Current predictions do not show the Treasure Coast receiving any huge surf.  We will however be having some three-foot surf if the current predictions are correct.  

There are a lot of coin beaches and treasure sites over there that could be open after the storm passes through.

According to the 8 AM update..

Keep watching Ian.  It isn't going to be far away from us and could come even closer than previously expected.

Current Fort Pierce Area Surf Predictions.
Source: MagicSeaWeed.com.

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There was some interesting TV Monday evening.

There was the space vehicle, Dart, hitting an asteroid.  You got a good image of the asteroid, but the picture was lost when the vehicle carrying the camera made contact with the asteroid.  That was a historic first and was the type of thing I'd like to see more on the Discovery channel.

And there was a Hallmark program showing Yosemite.  You know the Hallmark plot - girl catches guy - or however you see it.  Anyhow, going in you know the plot (all they change is the actors and the location) but they showed some of the iconic scenery of Yosemite, which is a visit I'd recommend for anybody and everybody that can.  The scenery of Yosemite is absolutely spectacular.  The TV images can't do it justice.  Do it while you are young enough to do some serious hiking.  Gold dredging can be done in the river just outside the park, and there are often archaeological digs going on inside the park.  In my opinion, Yosemite is a musts-see.

Be prepared and keep watching Ian.  

Good hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net

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9/26/22 Report - Ancient Gold Funeral Mask Found. Greek Silver Coin Found. Watching Ian.

 

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Source: LiveScience (link below.)

A gold funeral mask, thought to be more than 3,000 years old, has been discovered in the tomb of an ancient noble in the city of Zhengzhou in central China. 

It's one of the oldest gold objects ever found in central China, as contemporary treasures tend to be crafted from bronze and jade, raising questions about possible links to other early Chinese states where gold was more common...

Here is the link for more about that.

3,000-year-old gold funeral mask unearthed in noble's tomb in China | Live Science

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As RTL reports, a Greek silver coin from the 4th century BC was found after the rain along the forest road on Papuk. It was carved with a depiction of Zeus enthroned with a bird, and on the other side is a depiction of Alexander the Great. Random passers-by found it. They saw pottery and pieces of vessels.

Here is more about that.

4th Century BC Greek Silver Coin Found in Archaeological site on Papuk (total-croatia-news.com)

Remember that rain can uncover things too.

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Turning to Ian, here is the National Hurricane Center map as of early Monday.

Source: nhc.noaa.gov.

 

The Treasure Coast is mostly out of the cone now, but some authorities are saying that Ian could move closer to the Florida West Coast, maybe making landfall near Tampa.  See (385) [Sunday evening] Ian Strengthening; Significant Impacts to Cuba and Florida expected this Week - YouTube.  (Thanks to DJ for that link.) That site gives a good explanation of the factors that might influence Ian's path.

MagicSeaWeed is not predicting much surf for the Treasure Coast for a few days.

Source: MagicSeaWeed.com.

As we recently saw, MagicSeaWeed does a good job, but is not 100% accurate.  The weather predictions are not totally accurate.  Ian could still move a little more to the east than is currently shown on the NHC map.

If Ian heads for the Big Bend area, there are some good detecting areas up there.  Not too long ago I showed a lot of good metal detecting sites on the Florida West Coast.  At this point, it looks like the Treasure Coast will get west and south winds.  

After such a long summer of such small surf, at least we're getting some sand movement now as we move into Fall and Winter.

Many people have been reviewing on old post from the original Treasure Beaches Report, which explains how northeasters erode the beach.  Here is the link.

The Treasure Beaches Report Direct From Florida's Treasure Coast.: 4/1/14 Report. How a Nor'easter Works, What Happened at Riverbend Park & Seminole War Battle Site

Good hunting,

Treasureguide@comcast.net

9/25/22 Report - One South Hutchinson Island Beach and Metal Detecting Yesterday. Elizabeth II Coins. Watching Ian.

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Silver Commemorative Beach Find.

Above is a 1977 Isle of Man Silver Jubilee coin that I found years ago on Hollywood Beach. You've probably also found cons bearing the portrait of Queen Elizabeth II - perhaps including Canadian coins.  Coins and notes in circulation bearing the queen's portrait will replaced over time, making them less common, but in most cases I don't think it will affect values.

See Here's What's Happening To All The Coins, Banknotes, And Stamps Featuring The Queen (msn.com)

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Here are just a couple observations from John Brooks beach yesterday.

I mentioned yesterday finding a coin line or hole on John Brooks beach.  It was in the wet sand and the coins were not easy to recover due to the rushing water.  One reason I bother with modern coin holes is that you can often find something else mixed in with the coins, as illustrated by the little heart charm found yesterday.   The Equinox does well on small items like that.   

I know I left some finds behind yesterday.  They might be easier to get some other time.

Where I found the coin line, I could see the swells hitting at a sharper angle than on most of the same beach.  It was by a bend in the shoreline, but I think the sand at the beach front was deflecting the waves there.

Coins and Heart Charm Found On Beach Yesterday.

You might have noticed from my photos that the erosion along that beach was spotty.  There were some cuts that ran maybe ten or twenty yards separated by dips or scallops.  I think scallops are partly created by wind changes.  If the angle of the waves was like that along more of the beach, I believe there would have been more erosion.

When erosion begins on John Brooks beach, I expect, more often than not, to find some modern coins on the slope near the beach access.  When that happens, the coins sometimes are right in front of the beach access, but sometimes a little to the south or to the north.  The spot changes, but often remain in roughly the same area for a few years.  There have been years when you could find coins regularly at one of those spots. The modern coins show up after some erosion, but when you get more erosion, it is not uncommon for reales to show up in the same areas.  Some very good things have been found in those areas in the past.

It seems like one spot will catch things for a few years, but things change and then another spot is the go-to spot.

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Source: MagicSeaWeed.com.

As you can see the surf is supposed to decrease now.

Source: nhc.noaa.gov.

It looks like Ian could mostly miss the Treasure Coast - at least if it stays to the west or north like they are showing.  We'll get mostly west winds if that is what happens, even if it is a hurricane.

I'll be watching Ian.

I'd like to see how the Turtle shaped up yesterday.

Good hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net

9/24/22 Report - Surf A Little Higher On John Brooks Today and Shows A Little Erosion.

 

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John Brooks Beach Saturday Around Noon.

I went out to the beach this morning.  You might wonder why, given that the surf was supposed to be lower today than yesterday, and yesterday showed no erosion.   Well, I looked out the window this morning and saw the wind change.

Yesterday, you might recall, MagicSeaWeed predicted a pretty high surf, but we also had a west wind, which held the waves up.  Actually, despite MagicSeaWeed predicting less surf today, it was actually bigger than yesterday.  They aren't always right.

Higher Surf on South Hutchinson Island Saturday Morning.

Besides looking at the online predictions, look out the window.  That will provide additional information.  This morning the wind was coming more from the south, but I think it was about ten o'clock I saw it change, and decided I better go out to take a look.  As you can see from the above photo, John Brooks eroded some since yesterday.  I think the highest cuts I saw were about two feet.  

John Brooks Saturday Around Noon.

There was a coin hole that was down the slope at least half the way.  It was hard to recover the coins due to the rough water.

John Brooks Saturday Around Noon.

Source: nhc.noaa.gov.

The Atlantic is very active.  This map shows four named storms, and another system that will probably develop before long.

Of course, the one of most immediate interest is Ian, which will probably hit Florida.

Source: nhc.noaa.gov

Being on the west of us, if that is actually what happens, it won't have the greatests effect on the Treasure Coast.  As it passes, it might hit the West Coast pretty good.  We'll see how it develops.  Maybe you'll want to hit some beaches over there.

Predicted Surf for the Fort Pierce Area.
Source: MagicSeaWeed.com.

As you can see the Treasure Coast surf is supposed to decrease the next few days.

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Keep watching Ian.  We might get some high winds even if it doeesn't hit the Treasure Coast beaches at the best angle.  It still has time to change.

Good hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net

9/23/22 Report - Beach Metal Detecting Conditions Around the Treasure Coast Beaches. Another Hurricane Predicted.

 

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John Brooks Beach Friday Morning.

I went out to take a look at the beach to see how things were going.  I didn't expect much, but I wanted take a look.

John Brooks Beach Friday Morning.

On 9/19 one reader sent me an email and pointed out the 5 - 8 foot surf prediction for Friday coinciding with a nice morning high tide. He wondered if that would be a good tim.

Here is what I answered back then - four days ago.

At this point I'm not expecting much though. The [predicted] major swell angle is too east, while the wind is predicted to be from the west at that time. I'm guessing the surf won't be anything bigger than six foot at that time no matter what the current predictions. Don't forget the sandy front beaches now too. If the angles are no better than what I'm expecting, and the surf no bigger, I'm not expecting a lot. I also think good chance of Fiona staying out, maybe turning a little more to the east than currently predicted.

So this morning when I looked at John Brooks, it seems I was correct. No erosion there. The surf was on the smaller side, even though the waves were being held up by the west wind. The water got up pretty high on the beach, but nothing bigger than in recent weeks.  

I recently did a post on the topic of predicting erosion.  I pointed out that the angle is important.  That is something I've talked about a lot in the past.  And also you have to consider how much sand there is to begin with and where it is located.  If you pay attention to the things I talked about, you'll have a good idea of what to expect.

DJ sent the following beach pictures from this morning.

Wabasso Friday Morning.
Photo by DJ.

Seagrape Friday Morning.
Photo by DJ.

Seagrape Trail This Morning.
Photo by DJ.

Turtle Trail Friday Morning.
Photo by DJ.

Turtle Trail Friday Morning.
Photo by DJ.

Thanks to DJ for the beach photos.  Much appreciated.

Now expect to see the copyists put what I've told you in their books and tell you the same things but without telling you where they got it.

Source: nhc.noaa.gov.

Here is the next one.  I'll be turning my attention to that one next, and hoping that something opens up some of our beaches before long.

This morning there were more beach goers out.  It was very sunny and warm.

Good hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net

9/22/22 Report - 100 Year Old Coin Cache Found. Higher Surf Just Beginning. Another Storm System To Watch.

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Coins Found in 1000-Year-Old Cache.
Source: See LiveScience link below.

Archaeologists in Egypt have uncovered a nearly 1,000-year-old cache of gold and silver coins behind a temple in Esna, a city located along the Nile River.

The hoard, which was discovered by a team of researchers from Egypt's Supreme Council for Archaeology, includes coins minted throughout different parts of the Islamic era, which began in A.D. 610 (opens in new tab), when Muhammad received his first revelation, and lasted until approximately the 13th Century (opens in new tab).

Notable coins found during the excavation, which began last year, include 286 silver coins of kings and kingdoms from that era, as well as a variety of gold coins, a coin from Armenia that was minted during King Leo II's reign in the 13th century, and bronze and brass coins from the Ottoman Empire.,,

Here is the link for more about that.

Hoard of Islamic era gold and silver coins found behind Egyptian temple | Live Science

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Don Lemon was recently demoted from primetime to early mornings on CNN, mostly because he’s dumb and nobody watches. Nothing has changed in the move: Lemon Squeezey is still dumb and he still has no audience, which is kind of a shame because nobody saw this live: While trying to argue that the British Royal Family owes black people slave reparations, he got absolutely schooled on the history of slavery and was rendered speechless...

Watch: Don Lemon Left Speechless After Getting Schooled On Slave Reparations – Def-Con News (defconnews.com)

I made these similar comments eight years ago.

You'll find some of those in this post.

The Treasure Beaches Report Direct From Florida's Treasure Coast.: 4/1/14 Report. How a Nor'easter Works, What Happened at Riverbend Park & Seminole War Battle Site

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I went out this morning to see how things were getting started.  

John Brooks Beach Thursday Morning.

As you can see the surf was not very high yet.  I'd say not even three feet.  And the primary swell, as predicted, was hitting the beach straight on.  The secondary swell had a little angle, but nothing significant.

John Brooks Beach Thursdahy Morning.

At Walton Rocks the rocks I showed last week were not as visible.

As you can see from the MagicSeaWeed predictions, the surf is supposed to keep building and peak tomorrow.

Source: nhc.noaa.gov.

Fiona will be producing the higher surf tomorrow, but keep you eyes on the one down by South America, which is supposed to head into the Gulf and possibly come back over Florida.

Good hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net

9/21/22 Report - Finds. Researching Lead Objects: Pencils or Styli(?) Bigger Surf Coming Thursday and Friday.

 

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Four Finds From Last Week.

Here are four finds I made during a short hunt last week.  There is a square nail and square tack, broken junk ring and lead object.  

I've previously found a few of those lead objects before and discussed them in a post back in July of this year.   I don't know how many I have found now, but definitely four or more now.  To read about my theories on the lead objects, see Treasure Beaches Report: Pt. 2. (2020 and Beyond). : 7/12/22 Report - Lead Finds From Shipwreck Beaches. Skinny Dippers. Spiral Search Pattern. Top Auctions. (tbr2020.blogspot.com).

Archaeologists often refer to these as styli or styluses or pencils.  They are thought to have been used to write on slate or wax tablets.  Timothy McGuire, in his book, An Identification Guide to Recovered Colonial and Revolutionary War Artifacts, shows four similar lead rolls that he refers to as lead pencils.  I'm not totally convinced that is what they are and recently wondered if they might not be simply a convenient form for storing lead that could be recast or reused in any of a variety of ways.

What struck me after finding the latest one, is how common they appear to be on our beaches.  During salvage operations, I imagine that precise tallies would be kept, making such pencils common. 

Four Found Lead Rolls or Pencils
Found on Treasure Coast Beaches At Various Times.

I decided to do a little additional research on these items even though I've researched them before.  I searched the finds database of the Portable Antiquities Scheme (PAS)  using the key words "lead stylus." Many examples were found in the database (hundreds) and were mostly listed as "pencils."  Some in the PAS database were more like my finds than others.  Some were longer, and some seemed to have sharpened points.   Here are some in the database that look very much like the ones I found.

Lead Pencil in PAS database.
Record SUSS=6E8B3C.

Record ID: SUSS-6E8B3C
Object type: PENCIL
Broad period: MEDIEVAL
County: East Sussex
Workflow stage: Awaiting validation 
A cast lead alloy object possibly a pencil or stylus dating to the Medieval to Post-Medieval period. AD.1200-1800. The object is triangular in section with rounded points at each end. There is a possible incised saltire cross at one point. It is mid green in colour. Measurements: length: 64.82mm; width:11.08mm; thickness: 8.31mm; weight: 28.42g. A stylus is a writing implement used to scratch letters into the wax of a writing tablet, whilst a pencil makes a coloured mark on wood, paper or parchment. Lead alloy is rarely used for objects that appear to be conventional s…
Created on: Thursday 6th January 2022
Last updated: Monday 24th January 2022
Spatial data recorded. 

PAS lists these items as pencils. It seems the archaeological community generally interprets these items as pencils or styli.  For some reason I'm still not absolutely certain.

They generally date these types of objects from 1200 to 1800.  The PAS makes a distinction between stylus and pencil.   They say, A stylus is a writing implement used to scratch letters into the wax of a writing tablet while a pencil makes a coloured mark on wood, paper or parchment.  It seems to me that a stylus would be sharpened to make a clear impression in wax. That would not seem to be as important if you were making simple tally marks on a hard slate.

I'm wondering how many of you have found similar items.  Since I've found several, I'd guess that others have found them too.

From my experience they are seem to be common finds.  That is what makes me wonder if they did not have a more general use.  On the other hand, as I conjectured, if they are pencils, I can understand that they might have been common on treasure salvage beaches where a tally of recoverd treasure would be important.

It could be that a greater portion of the beach finds are the result of salvage efforts, while it has in the past been common to commonly interpret beach finds as having washed up from the water, which undoubtedly does happen too.

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Cone for Hurricane Fiona.
Source: nhc.noaa.gov.

Looks like Hurricane Fiona won't come to close to us.  The path seems well established.

Surf Predictions for Fort Pierce Area.
Source: MagicSeaWeed.com.

Looks like the surf will start to increase tomorrow (Thursday) and reach a peak Friday.

Thursday there will be a north wind, but primary swell from the east.  The secondary swell will be from the north.

On Friday early, the wind will be from the west, later being northerly.  Still the primary swell will be from the east with a secondary north swell.

 It isn't totally about the water though.  Remember to consider the amount of beach sand, especially that in front of the beaches, which can buffer the effect of the surf.

The high tides those two days will be 3 plus feet.

I don't think with the current beach conditions, a five-to-eight-foot surf will do much more than touch the foot of the back dunes.  And I wouldn't be surprised if the surf in most places, especially considering the amount of sand on the front beaches, has more the effect of a five-foot surf.

Good hunting,

Treasureguide@comcast.net