12/15/25 Report - Remote Touch. Scientists Say Humans Can Feel Presence of Object Through Sand. Couple Beach Views. Rip Current Advisory.

I'll start off with this early morning report from DJ.

It's a couple hours past high tide. There is a line of seaweed brought in at high tide.

In the video there is a north to south movement of water at the beach front but the wind direction is NE.

Most of last night it was from the north.

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Here is a view of the surf from later in the day.

Clip From Fort Pierce South Jetty Beach Cam Around 1 PM Monday.

Here is the link to the current camera.

Fort Pierce Beach Cam - Visit St. Lucie

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HIGH RIP CURRENT RISK NOW IN EFFECT THROUGH LATE TUESDAY NIGHT... ...HIGH SURF ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 7 PM EST THIS EVENING --- Humans may have a hidden sense of touch that reaches beyond their fingertips. In new experiments, volunteers detected objects buried in sand without making contact – successfully identifying hidden cubes with about 70 percent accuracy. The discovery suggests that people can perceive faint pressure ripples in loose materials, much like certain shorebirds that sense prey beneath wet sand... Human decisions were more accurate than expected. Participants achieved 70.7 percent precision – the share of correct detections among all responses – and detected targets at distances of about 2.7 inches (6.9 centimeters) under these conditions... Here is the link for the rest of that article. Humans have a remarkable "seventh sense" ability of remote touch - Earth.com You've heard of remote viewing, now it seems humans might have the capability of remote touch. That is an extremely interesting topic to me, but I won't explore it anymore today.  Some other time. ---

Surf Chart from SurfGuru.com.

The tides are only supposed to be around 2.5 feet today.

I had appointments today and am not going to get out to the beach.  I hope others will send in beach reports.

Good hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net

12/14/25 Report - How Coins Move on a Beach. Part IX: Tidal Cycles. Values and AI. Bigger Surf Coming.

 

Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.

Surf Chart from SurfGuru.com.

Looks like tomorrow we'll be seeing a bigger surf.

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I've been putting this off for a while, but I'll give it a shot today.  One factor that I haven't talked about much yet in my How Coins Move on a Beach series, is the tides.  I'll try to not run on about it too long.

Some of the greatest water force exerted on a beach is at the point of a crashing big wave.  I've shown pictures before of how the vertical force of the wave digs into the sand as shown below.

At the point of the crash material is suspended, which is the first step in material being moved, whether it is sand, rocks or coins.  As long as objects are covered or settled into the sand, they won't be moved.

I showed the wave tank picture shown below before too.  It shows the same thing but very realistically. You can see the same thing going on that is illustrated in the photo above, but you can also see in this picture the disturbed sand moving backwards to build a little hill or bar.  Some of the sand can be seen suspended in the water too.

So, what does that have to do with the tides?  Well, as the tides come in or go out, the area where the waves break changes. That area moves up the beach and then retreats and repeats with each tidal cycle.

But obviously something isn't shown here or the sand would be continually stripped from the beach.  There are also times when there is a net accumulation of sand on the beach.  That happens when the sea is not as rough and the swash is greater than the backwash.  The swash pushes sand onto the beach.

During calmer seas you will see the beach build and during rougher seas you will often see it erode.  The point to remember is that during calmer seas coins are not moving as much as the sand.  It requires more force to move coins than sand, and the coins tend to get buried when the beach is building.  When the sand is getting stripped, the coins can get moved too, but they still generally move less than the sand so you sometimes see coins uncovered on the beach.

When the tides are low, the waves are breaking in front of the beach or low on the beach, and when the tides are high, they are breaking higher on the beach.  When the tides are high and the sea is rough  the waves can be breaking high on the beach and dig into the dunes.  At that point, you might see objects fall out of the dunes.

Objects that are moved relatively easily such as zinc pennies aren't far behind the sand.  Some coins like the little aluminum coins of some of the Caribbean countries can be found right in with the sand that is being churned by the crashing waves. 

I seldom detect right in the crashing waves because it is challenging and your equipment might break, but I have done it a few times in the Caribbean. I found the small aluminum coins washing around with the sand right in the breaking waves.  That surprised me the first time.

There are times when you find a shell pile composed a big heavy shells and you'll find a few coins, even quarters, in with the shells. There are times when rocks and things get thrown up, but that requires, first that the rocks and coins be exposed, and second, a good amount of force.  Not too long ago I posted that engineering article from the early twentieth century that talked about the very heavy objects were moved by very large waves.

I really like to see a big high tide combined with big waves, which is what we had back in 2020 and 2022 when some very old coins got eroded out of the high back dunes.

So the thing about the tides is how the crash zone moves up and down the beach with each tide cycle.  One complicating factor is the changing wind and surf conditions within and between tide cycles.  

Another complicating factor is, once the coins get dragged down into the surf and buried, often between rocks or reefs or whatever, they will be staying there barring some extreme or unusual circumstances.  Maybe salvagers will use blowers to move the sand and lift the objects, at which point they become more vulnerable to natural forces, but normally when the salvagers are working, the seas will be calm.and coins will generally be covered again before long.

That area right in front of the beach, especially when there is a rock or solid bottom, when the sand and shells get cleaned out can make for some excellent detecting.  I've told about times like that before.  It doesn't happen often, but tons of coins and jewelry can be found when the dip in front of the beach gets cleaned out.   Below is a link to a post on one of those.

The Treasure Beaches Report Direct From Florida's Treasure Coast.: 6/28/19 Report - Finds From Two Good Hunting Days. Asteroid Mining. Roman Shipwreck. Old Land Sea Explorations Project.

Picture loose material in the crash zone getting suspended and moved and then picture the crash zone moving with the tide cycles, first up the beach and back down repeatedly.  The suspended material will mostly be moved down the slope, but some material will be pushed forward by the swash. 

Well, I think that is it for now.  I'll call that Part IX of the How Coins Move on a Beach.

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I've acknowledged that AI is a great research tool for any detectorist or treasure hunter.  I've also pointed out some shortcomings and concerns. For one thing, AI is not always correct.  And there are other things that I'm concerned about.

I don't know what values any system has.  Every chatbot has values of some sort embedded in it - intentionally or not.  Honesty MIGHT be one.  Cooperativeness might be one.  Those are just a couple of examples.  But an AI system acts on the basis of some type of values, but you don't know exactly what they are.  It can be influenced in some way too.  There are coders.  There is a training process, whether it is built in or externally influenced.  We need to be concerned about the values that are built in or influencing such capable and pervasive systems.  Values are at the heart of the matter.  What is the system built to accomplish and how can it be influenced?  To whatever extent it becomes autonomous, you have to wonder, if it trustworthy?  Is it correct?  Is it honest?  Exactly what can it do?  What can it gain control over?  What can go wrong?

When used for metal detecting, there isn't a huge amount of danger.  If built into a metal detector, there is not much to be concerned about.  I'm just saying that it can be helpful, but on a larger scale, we need to be informed.

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12/13/25 Report = An Old Post Revisited: The Transformative Power of Seeking. Information and Experience. Treasure Is Where You Find It.

Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.

One post I wrote for treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com over fifteen years ago still receives a lot of attention.  It gets tons of views every day, so I am reposting part of it today in tbr2020.blogspot.com.  I'll add some additional comments to bring it up to date with my current thinking.  

First, here is the original.

Information and time are two of your most valuable and probably most under-appreciated assets.

Information is worth what you make of it and is something that keeps on giving.

Your time, like it or not, is finite on this earth. What you you do with it determines its value. Every moment is either used well or wasted. You never have a second chance to use the same moment again.

Many years ago, after having visited the Treasure Coast a few times without finding any treasure coins, I saw an ad in a treasure magazine for a map of the 1715 Fleet treasure beaches. Since I didn't find any treasure coins on my first trips to the Treasure Coast, I wondered if I was really on the right beaches.

I sent my money for the map and read it carefully when I received it. The map consisted of two photocopied pages and pointed out five of the "best" treasure beach sites.

There wasn't a great amount of new information for me on the map, but it was still just what I needed. Someone who had been successful and knew what he was talking about (Roy Volker), said these were good sites. Now I knew I wasn't way off when I made a trip to detect those places.

I had accumulated a large amount of information from a variety of books and sources on my own, but I preferred having the map. It gave the important information in a concise easy to carry form, and I didn't have to page through books filled with useless information to find the locations that I sought.

Was the information on the map information that I couldn't have found for myself if I had done a bunch of research? No, of course not. But it saved me a bunch of time and quickly gave me confidence when I visited those beaches.

I don't remember how many trips it took before I actually found my first cob, but I know I made several trips before finally finding my first. And the funny thing is, when I found it, I wasn't sure what it was until I got it home and carefully examined it. In fact, my wife was ready to throw away that worn thin black disc before I told her to keep it. I remember the exact spot and how it happened still today.

But one point that I want to emphasize is the value of information. I paid something for that information, and it was valuable even though there wasn't a lot of it and even though I might have been able to go to the library to research it by myself. I saved hours and hours of time and got confidence that I probably would not have achieved on my own. And that information was cheap - certainly not enough to compensate the originator for his time and experience.

I could have easily spent tons of hours on research without the same results. You might say that library information is free, but the hours I would have spent would have been a much greater cost than what I paid for the map. And who knows how the chain of events leading up to today might have changed.

All of the information you get from this blog is free. And the time I spend on it is very valuable - if only to me.

In my opinion, every mature adult should figure what an hour of their time is worth to them and what they would sell it for.

Time is precious, and good information in the right format can help you make the most of your time.

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That is still a good post.

The original post was written in the days before AI, and it was before many of the metal detecting and treasure hunting sites existed.  Today there is more available information to be navigated.

Since the original post I've become even more aware of the value of time and the transformative power of accumulated experience.  Information is best validated through personal experience and the combination of good information and accumulated personal experience is transformative.

It has been said that information is power, but that is true only if you use the information. Information validated by personal experience is effective and powerful. It gives the kind of confidence you need.  You have seen it work so you know it works; you how it works and you understand it in a new way.

The one big benefit of aging is the deepening of the soul.  Life becomes deeper; experiences become more meaningful; and the soul grows richer.  

One thing I emphasized in the original post is the need to value your time.  If you've ever charged for your time in a business or profession, you understand something about how that works. But when you are done with your profession or business, your personal time still has a value - an even bigger value as the amount of available time seems to be diminishing. The remaining time is at a premium.  There is no need to wait until the remaining time runs low to appreciate the value of time. 

In the early years, when time seems virtually unlimited, you can spend a lot of unproductive time, although it might not be as unproductive as it seems.  You might still be able to make use of the experience later if you are self-observant and learn from it.  Thoughtfully connsider your failures as well as your successes.  You will increase the richness of your lived experience.

Confidence is important when you metal detect.  How often have you searched and searched unproductively as your doubts grew.  You might doubt your metal detector.  You might doubt your skill, or if there is anything left to be found. You might wonder if you are at the right place.

Detectorists seem to always be looking for a better metal detector.  That is one of the first things detectorists tend to blame for failures.  There will always be a market for a "better" detector.  But remember the metal detector is only a tool.  Treasure was found before metal detectors ever existed.  Don't depend too much on your metal detector.  As I've said before, a metal detector won't find treasure for you.   You have to find treasure.  You have to put the coil over treasure before the metal detector will tell you anything.

Treasure finds, in the end, are always within.  It is about the transformation that takes place during the search.

Ask and you will receive.  Seek and you will find.  Knock and it will be opened unto you.

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Surf Chart from SurfGuru.com.

Looks like a good one-day bump in the surf coming up.

I'm really missing the Fort Pierce Jetty Beach Cam.  It has been off-line for a few days.   It provided a good view of a very vulnerable area of the beach.

I still have to conclude my How Coins Move series.  

Still have some things that I need to finish cleaning too.

Good hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net

 

12/11/25 Report - Pots of Roman Coins Found. Semiquincentennial Coins Coming Soon. Mining The Final Frontier.

 

Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure  Beaches Report.

Archaeologists in France have discovered three ancient storage jars brimming with tens of thousands of Roman coins. The vessels were buried in pits 1,700 years ago in the house floor of an ancient settlement, possibly as a type of safe or piggy bank.

These three jugs, known as amphorae, were uncovered during excavations run by the National Institute for Preventive Archaeological Research (INRAP) in the village of Senon in northeastern France, and may contain a total of more than 40,000 Roman coins.

The first hoard held an estimated 83 pounds (38 kilograms) of coins, which "corresponds to approximately 23,000 to 24,000 coins,"...

Here is the link for more about that.

1,800-year-old 'piggy banks' full of Roman-era coins unearthed in French village | Live Science

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New designs on the obverse and reverse of the 2026 dime, quarter and half dollar coins will be minted throughout the year to celebrate 250 years since the adoption of the Declaration of Independence. Each coin will also include two dates, 1776 and 2026.

"The designs on these historic coins depict the story of America's journey toward a 'more perfect union,' and celebrate America's defining ideals of liberty," said Acting Mint Director Kristie McNally. "We hope to offer each American the opportunity to hold our nation's storied 250 years of history in the palms of their hands as we Connect America through Coins."


Some of those coins will be printed at the Denver U.S. Mint location. The first Denver Mint opened for business in 1863 and was originally an assay office for miners to bring gold to be melted, tested for purity, and cast into bars. Now it produces circulating coins, commemorative coins and uncirculated coin sets.

Here is that link.

Denver Mint to produce semiquincentennial coins to celebrate 250th birthday of United States

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High above the sky, in the stretch of space where satellites race around Earth, a crowded ring of old metal is whipping along at more than 15,000 miles per hour. People call this space junk. Scientists call it orbital debris, and it’s piling up fast.

The objects include dead satellites, broken parts from past missions, and tiny fragments arising from explosions or collisions. This mess isn’t sitting still, either.

Every object, even one the size of a grain of rice, moves at a speed that turns it into a threat...

Here is that link.

New ideas proposed to clear the space junk crowding Earth's orbit - Earth.com

The article describes three methods of cleaning up space.  Two of the methods remove or incinerates the junk, and the third involves recycling or reusing the materials in space.

I've said before that I expect treasure hunting or mining of unused materials to someday be done in (as Captain Kirk called it) the final frontier.  There are a lot of valuable materials up there

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Surf Chart from SurfGuru.com.

A seven foot surf is up there. 

Good hunting,

Treasureguide@comcast.net

12/10/25 Report - Very Old Gilt Christ Figure Found by Detectorist. Wheat Cents. Selecting Cleaning Method for Heavily Encrusted Coins.

Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.

The above photo and following excerpts are from a cool story about a great find.

A metal detectorist in Norway recently found a striking depiction of Jesus Christ in a grassy meadow — a gilded figure that dates back nearly 1,000 years...

The figurine, which dates to around 1100 A.D., was found on All Saints' Day, the Christian holy day that honors all martyrs and saints...

"But we persevered. … We found 78 buttons, some coins, buckles, a medieval weight and a lot of the usual finds."...

Photos of the discovery show the weathered figurine depicting Jesus on the cross, still bearing remnants of gilding and fine detail on its torso...

The detectorist promptly called experts and reported the find. In Norway, Dybvik said, all objects from before 1537 must be reported to authorities...

Here is the link for the rest of that article.

Treasure hunter finds Jesus figurine, nearly 1,000 years old, in windswept Norway field | Fox News

1537!  

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--- For all the talk of billion-dollar valuations, the wheat penny story is also surprisingly domestic. Many of the most interesting finds do not come from high-end auctions but from kitchen drawers and inherited jars of change. Collectors note that Many people discover valuable wheat pennies in old jars, inherited collections and even in pocket change, especially when they start checking dates against reference lists that highlight key years like 1931 and other low-mintage issues, as outlined in guides that help owners compare wheat penny values by year. The romance of the hunt is part of what keeps demand high, because every new collector hopes their coffee can of coins hides a rarity.
The looming disappearance of the penny from everyday commerce is only intensifying that search...

Here is the link for the rest of that article on wheat pennies.

Why wheat pennies are suddenly worth more than gold 

Yesterday I found a 1940 wheat I got in change from a checkout machine at Winn-Dixie.  

I saw the Lincoln side first, but the copper tone made me thing it might be a wheatie, so I turned it over and saw the wheat.  

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Recently I mentioned a couple completely encrusted objects that I considered cleaning by electrolysis.  They were finds that were completely encrusted, and I was not sure how I wanted to proceed with the cleaning.  With one of shown below, I first tried vinegar, which wasn't working. The black encrustation did not seem affected by the acid, although the little white calcareous spots were dissolved.

Manuals on cleaning and conservation are usually organized by what the object is made of, but I've found that the type of corrosion or crust needs to be considered. Some methods just won't work with some types of encrustation.

I've found encrusted coins that did not respond to acid at all.  That was the case with the silver coins that were recovered from Ambersands.  They were dumped at Ambersands after being removed from the Sebastian inlet.  They were completed covered with a black crust that was impervious to acid.  When I broke the crust, the inside showed a negative of the coins surface.  Below is an example from of part of the shell that encapsulated a Mercury dime.  You can clearly see the reverse image of Mercury.

I don't know what the crust was made of but it was hard and wasn't affected by acid. I just broke it and removed it like an eggshell.

The point I am making is that you should probably consider the type of corrosive material as well as the composition of the object when you select a cleaning method.  Sometimes acid is the best choice and sometimes you will need something else.  Sometimes you might choose electrolysis.

This encrusted object shown above looks like acid might do the job, but I'll try vinegar a first anyhow. 

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Surf Chart from SurfGuru.com.

By Tuesday the wind had shifted some.  It is now more northeast as is the surf.

The high tides are still over three feet.

It looks like we might have some nice high surf in about a week.

I noticed some of the web cams were not working today on SurfGuru.  

Good hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net

12/9/25 Report - Another Mystery Find Needing Cleaning. Oldest Artifact Made by Lost Wax Casting. What Detectorists Should Know About Casting.

 Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.

Completely Encrusted Find.

This encrusted object contains a metal object that gave a very nice signal, but I have no idea what is in it.  It is more flat and round than it appears in the photo.  I have it a bit tilted in my hand.  The crust is hard and I put off deciding how to attach it.  I might explore taking off some of the crust mechanically before trying electrolysis, which at this point is what I'll probably do even if I am successful removing some of the crust mechanically.

I had that one object in electrolysis and interrupted it and planned to finish up that one, but I've been busy and haven't gotten back to it.  Still trying to decide about the object shown above.

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The earliest evidence of lost wax casting in Europe has been found.  Here are some excerpts from an article about that.

In 1884, one of the burials discovered at El Argar, the eponymous site of the El Argar culture, revealed the remains of a woman wearing an unusual silver bangle. This ornament appears to be the first evidence of a silver object produced by lost-wax casting in Bronze Age Iberia and, to date, in Western Europe. It demonstrates that El Argar metalworking technology was probably more complex and innovative than previously thought, opening up new perspectives on the organization of metalwork production and the degree of craft specialization in the earlier Bronze Age of south-eastern Spain...

Rare in the early phase of the El Argar culture, silver objects as grave goods became more common from around 1800 BC, but remained restricted to a small proportion of the population.

...The presence and quantity of silver items in a grave have been used as a key criterion for identifying members of a dominant apical class. The importance of silver objects as social markers in El Argar society is emphasized.

Silver objects mostly take the form of personal ornaments, such as rings, several spiral-based items (e.g. armlets, hair-rings etc.) and diadems, but occasionally also occur as rivets, pommels, and awls. Most of these items are solid cast objects or wires forged by hammerwork to shape, but sheet silver objects produced by plastic deformation are also known (e.g. diadems, pottery appliqués). Decoration on metal objects of any kind, like embossing and chasing, only appears very occasionally in El Argar metalworking. The absence of complex shapes and the lack of technical investment have frequently been interpreted as evidence for small-scale production and for a low degree of craft specialization...

Here is the link for the rest of the article.

FIRST EVIDENCE OF LOST‐WAX CASTING IN THE EARLIER BRONZE AGE OF SOUTH‐EASTERN SPAIN: THE SILVER BANGLE FROM EL ARGAR, GRAVE 292 - Boutoille - Oxford Journal of Archaeology - Wiley Online Library

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Knowing a little about jewelry making techniques can help the detectorist better assess finds. For example, those cheap souvenir treasure coins will often be identified by the presence of mold seams from casting. That is often one ofthe first signs of a fake.  

As you know, the treasure coins found on the Treasure Coast, known as cobs, were hammered and not cast.  Cast coins will often show a clear seam running around the outside edge of the coin.  There were also contemporary fake coins (or counterfeits) made by casting.  Those can have good values if they are old and were meant to circulate along with genuine coins.

I've told before about when I took a lost wax casting class at a local community college.  I'd recommend that for any detectorist who might be interested.  In the class you'll learn how to make nice items out of old scrap silver or gold finds.  The others in the class are always in need of inexpensive materials, so it also provides an opportunity to sell your scrap silver or gold.  

Another benefit is that when you become familiar with the process, you will be ready to recognize items made by similar techniques.

Lost wax casting involves making a wax model, which is then used to create a mold with plaster or something like that.  Then the mold is put in a kiln and the wax melted out and molten metal is then poured into the mold to make the object.  Lost wax casting is used to create intricate items, like jewelry.  Solid casting, on the other hand involves pouring molten metal directly into a mold without the use of any wax model. Always look for seams or sprue marks.

Lost wax object will often show microscopic holes, lumps of extraneous metal or irregular surface textures as well as the seams I already mentioned. Of course, counterfeiters might remove seams but even that might be detectable with the use of a microscope.  As I've said before, a microscope is a valuable tool for inspecting finds.

Items are still made by lost wax casting. and some amateurs make their own items. They will not always mark the karat values or put any other identifying marks on their creations. 

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Surf Chart from Surfguru.com.

A cold front came through.  We had some good north winds Monday evening.  

The high tides are still pretty high.

As you can see from the chart the surf will remain northish for a while.

Good hunting,

Treasureguide@comcast.net

12/7/25 Report - Wabasso South. More Replenishment Coming. Copper Hits Record Prices. SS John Barry Sunk with Silver Coins.

 Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.

South of Wabasso
Photos by DJ.

The following excerpt was posted on DredgeWire, Dec. 5, 2025.

...“Work includes placing beach quality sand and planting native dune vegetation to restore storm protection and habitat along approximately three miles of shoreline.”

The project follows earlier restoration work completed in Indian River Shores and Wabasso Beach. Sector 5 covers about 3.1 miles of coast that lost substantial sand and dune volume during the storms. Plans call for roughly 153,300 cubic yards of beach-compatible sand and more than 117,500 native, salt-tolerant dune plants. The county’s estimated $3.3 million share is being funded through local Tourist Development tax revenue.

Beyond storm recovery, Bergman said erosion poses growing risks to both private and public assets.

“Storms and sea level rise cause coastal erosion. Coastal erosion threatens upland infrastructure. That infrastructure can be private, but right behind that private infrastructure, you have a lot of public infrastructure. Think roads and power lines and water utilities as well as our beloved beach parks,” he said.

Tourism is also closely tied to shoreline conditions, he added.

“The beaches also serve as an economic engine for our communities. It attracts a lot of tourists. It attracts a lot of people,” Bergman said.

Environmental protection remains a central focus of the project.

“Lastly, beaches provide critical habitat for marine life, including our endangered sea turtle species,” he said. “Shorebirds will also benefit. Shorebirds that migrate great distances, you can find them loafing a lot of times along our shoreline.”...

Here is the link for more on that.

Indian River County, Fl Begins Final Post Hurricane Beach Restoration - DredgeWire : DredgeWire

There is a lot there that I would like to comment on, but there is so much to say that I don't know where to start.

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Dec. 5. 2025.

-- Brent crude oil is down 0.2% to $63.13 a barrel.

-- European benchmark gas is up 1.1% to 27.38 euros a megawatt-hour.

-- Gold futures are up 0.4% to $4,261.70 a troy ounce.

-- LME three-month copper futures are up 1.3% to $11,579.50 a metric ton.



Copper Hits Fresh Record on Fears of Global Supply Squeeze

Copper prices climbed to a fresh record on Friday, driven by fears of a global supply shortage as traders stockpile in the U.S. and optimism around interest-rate cuts by the Federal Reserve next week...

Here is the link for more about that.

Copper Hits Fresh Record on Fears of Global Supply Squeeze — Commodities Roundup | Morningstar

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The SS John Barry was a 7,200-ton American Liberty Ship in World War II. The John Barry was torpedoed and sunk in the Arabian Sea at position 15.10° N 55.18E in 1944.

The ship left its convoy under radio silence to go on a mission to Dhahran in Saudi Arabia when it was torpedoed 185 kilometres (115 mi) off the coast of Oman by the German submarine U-859 on 28 August 1944.  The SS John Barry was carrying a cargo of 3 million American-minted Saudi one-riyal silver coins as an American payment. The reason for this shipment (one of several during the war) was that Saudi Arabia did not use paper money at the time and this led to a war-time shortage of currency with which to pay workers building new oil refineries and other US facilities at newly founded Dhahran.  (wikipedia)

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Surf Chart from SurfGuru.com.

Good hunting,

Treasureguide@comcast.net