11/13/24 Report - Old Posts Getting Lot of Attention. Green Cabin Wreck and NADL. Around The Tree and Behind the Post.

 

Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.

Source:  Florida East Coast Shipwreck Project - Davide Moore 1984.

I occasionally check my original treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com site to see what people are reading. The original site still contains many posts and is read daily by a lot of people. One post that continues to be read a lot contains information provided by the NADL on the Green Cabin Wreck site.  Below is a little information about the NADL from their site.

Archaeology is public or it is nothing. The main purpose of any archaeological project is to acquire knowledge and share it with both the domain experts and the general public. Archaeologists destroy the sites they dig. Documenting and sharing are archaeologists’ main responsibilities.

This page started at Texas A&M University in 2006 as a digital library of artifacts gathered in the domain of Nautical Archaeology, supported by a NSF grant (IIS-0534314),..

I agree whole heartedly with the described purpose and have criticized archaeology for not being more public.  The only way to find a lot of the information is to subscribe to expensive journals or get into the basements of the museums or universities.  

It seems the NADL was formed with an admirable goal but was not extensively developed.  You can see the reason.  It was funded by an NSF grant.  That means that when the grant was over, the project was discontinued. It looks like it was not refunded.  Maybe I'm wrong but that is my impression.  It also looks like something produced by graduate students.  

At the top of this post is an illustration of the wreck and here is some of what the site says about the Green Cabin wreck.

The Green Cabin Wreck was located in the early 1960s by treasure hunter Kip Wagner in Florida and first believed to be one of the 1715 fleet wrecks. Based on the fact that none of the coins found in it dated after 1618, Eugene Lion tentatively identified it as the San Martin, a 300 ton ship built in Vizcaya that left Havana to Spain in September 1618 and disappeared on the coasts of Florida, during a storm.

Here is the link.

Green Cabin Shipwreck (1618) – The Nautical Archaeology Digital Library

When you think about the wrecks of the Treasure Coast, you probably think about the 1715 Fleet, but there are others, such as this early 17th century wreck.  Some of the older coins found on the Treasure Coast come from this wreck. 

The wreck is described by NADL as being at Cape Canaveral, but the coordinates are given as Lat. 27°51’27.74″N; Long. 80°26’35.25″W.

Perhaps most helpful to this blog's readers is the following illustration even though it is several years old, so some things have undoubtedly changed.

Green Cabin Wreck Site.
Source: DisneyEveryday.com.

The Green Cabin Wreck is not to be confused with the Cabin Wreck, which is farther north.

The source for the above illustration is https://www.disneyeveryday.com/sunken-spanish-treasure-off-the-coast-of-disneys-vero-beach-resort/.  The link does not appear to be active anymore.

Perhaps the most famous artifact from that wreck is an astrolabe. 

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I heard a TV advertisement a day or two ago, that regarding Christmas, said something like, What is under the tree is not as important as those who are with you around the tree.  That stuck with me.  It is something that seems even more correct and important as you grow older and lose a lot of friends and family.  Fewer of them are around the tree every year and you didn't appreciate their presence like you should have when they were there.  

Another post from my original TreasureBeachesReport.blogspot.com that has been receiving a lot of attention lately is one that goes along with that same sentiment.  I'll repost it below.

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7/11/19 Report - Tribute to Fred Dengler and Others I've Come To Know Through This Blog. 

Frederick (Michael St. Jude) Dengler. (1950 - 2018)
Source: YouTube - link below.

Yesterday I wondered in my post where Fred Dengler was.  He was the fellow that always answered my fossil questions.  I didn't know anything about fossils when I began this blog, but Fred was always there.  Even though I never met him, I distinctly remember one email from years ago when he said, "I'm here for you."  That impressed me.  Not only did he answer my questions, but he let me know that I could count on him.

When I said I missed Fred in yesterday's post, one other blog-friend went looking for him and found that he had moved on from this earth.  Alberto sent me this obituary.

FREDERICK M. DENGLER 

1950 - 2018 

FREDERICK M.  DENGLER, 68 

BARTOW - Frederick M. Dengler, also known professionally as Frederick Michael St. Jude, age 68, passed away Friday, June 8, 2018 in Lakeland, FL, after a very adventurous life. 

Born on January 14, 1950 in Pottsville, PA, he was the son of the late Frederick Dengler and Martha (Bennett) Dengler (living). Mr. Dengler was an Artist and worked in the Entertainment Industry for many years, having appeared on stage, in tv and movies, fronting several bands and having released albums and other musical collaborations which can continue to be shared with the world. He was also an author, sculptor, and a prolific painter. Mr. Dengler was a collector of rare artifacts and a fossil expert, having two previously undiscovered fossils named after him.  

He is survived by a loving family that includes his wife of 48 years, Suzanne Dengler of Bartow, his daughter Shannon McPherson and her husband Jason of Bartow and his two grandchildren: Zack and Annabelle, as well as his sisters Debbie and Dawn, brother Dana, and many nieces and nephews.  

A celebration of Freddie's life will be held at a later date. Condolences to the family at 

www.whiddenmcleanfuneralhome.com ; donations may be made in his honor to St. Jude Children's Research Hospital.

Published in Ledger from June 12 to June 13, 2018 

I knew about Fred's kindness and knowledge of fossils, but there was a lot about Fred that I didn't know.  He was also a singer, artist, mystic, science fiction enthusiast and actor.

You know how you find an object, maybe a coin, and it is a very nice coin - a real keeper - and you put it aside only later to do some research and find out that there is a lot about it that you didn't know, and you find out it is more unique, complex and wonderful than you ever expected?  Then you appreciate it even more.

It is like that with people too.  For most, you only know a little bit about them.  You don't know the whole range of who they are.  You might underestimate them and assume that there is little more than the little that you know.  That is a big mistake.

The funny thing is, I was wondering where Fred was, and thanks to Alberto's research, within hours I found a documentary on Fred entitled Frederick Michael St. Jude -  Here Am I.

Fred Dangler Acting with Sheena Easton On Miami Vice.
Source: YouTube - link below.

As I said, Fred was an actor.  Above is Fred with Sheena Easton on Miami Vice.

The YouTube documentary opens with Fred sifting for fossils and philosophizing.  It shows some of his collection and then gets more into his music and art.

I hope you will take a look.  Here is the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV1yNZtb9N4&feature=youtu.be

Thanks Fred, and thanks to all of you that have helped me in one way or another over the years.

A lot of experts and very knowledgeable people read and contribute to this blog.  You might be surprised to learn who they are and what they do.

Today I just wanted to say thank you and pay my respects to someone that helped me many times without even knowing me, and by extension, say thanks to all of you who help me on a daily basis.

People are very much like buried objects on a beach.  You have to make the effort to discover them and get to know them.

The long and winding road that once stretched out into the unseen future, now looking back, doesn't look very long at all.  The people that you traveled with or met along the way, show the wear, as do you.  Many other fellow travelers are no longer on that path.  You appreciate it all the more.  Fellow travelers who stuck with you through tough or long parts of the journey, you love all the more.

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Source: SurfGuru.com.

We are having some good winds today along with really high tides.  

In the above chart, you can see that there will be some wind shifts.

It would be a good time to be out there checking around various spots.

Good hunting,

Treasureguide@comcast.net