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Sunday, September 15, 2024

9/15/24 Report - Canadian Coin Finds: George V Large Cent and a Couple Loonies. Disappearing Beach Pebbles.

 

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1917 George V Canadian One-Cent Coin

A couple days ago I was talking about the Canadian coins you can find on Florida beaches.  Above is probably the oldest Canadian Coin I've found and so far one of my favorite Canadian coin finds, but not worth a lot.

Until 1908, all of Canada’s coins were made by the Royal Mint in London. However, the opening of the British Royal Mint’s satellite branch in Ottawa changed history. Governor Earl Grey and Countess Grey opened the mint by striking Canada’s first bronze cent.

Around the same time, gold production in the Yukon and British Colombia was booming, and a refinery was in demand to help transform rough gold into gold that could be used for coins. Thus, the Royal Canadian Mint’s in-house gold refinery was created in 1911. This refinery proved very valuable to Great Britain, especially during World War I when Canadian-produced gold bars were used to pay British war debts.

In 1912, the Royal Canadian Mint began producing the “first truly Canadian gold coins,” which consisted of five-dollar gold coins and ten-dollar gold coins. These were the first coins to bear the word “Canada” and the Canadian coat of arms on their surfaces, which was a huge moment for the Mint and the nation.

The Ottawa Mint was still, however, under the observation of the British Royal Mint. It was not until 1931 that the Ottawa Mint and its entire operation became solely Canadian...

See 1 Cent - George V (with "DEI GRA") - Canada – Numista

And Learn the History of the Royal Canadian Mint | Provident (providentmetals.com)

Yesterday I talked about some one-dollar coins that weren't Canadian.  Below are a couple of my Canadian dollar coin finds.  They are known as loonies.  Not in such great condition as the 1917.

1988 (obverse) and 1987 (reverse) Canadian Loonies.

The Canadian one-dollar coin is called a loonie.  It is a gold-colored Canadian coin first minted in 1987.  It is bronze-plated nickel and was introduced as a cost-saving measure to replace the one dollar bill.

I started talking about Canadian coin finds because they are common Florida beach finds and can be worth checking for errors and varieties that might be worth some decent money.  I intend to examine mine more closely in the hope of finding some errors and varieties.

I haven't shown any Canadian nickels yet, I don't think.  They are more subject to corrosion on the beach.  You can see that in the following photo.


Canadian Nickel Beach Finds.

Notice the hard white sand crust on the top nickel.  That is common on these coins.  It seems very difficult to clean.

So I won't talk more about the Canadian coins until I get them examined.  We'll see what, if anything, I find.

I'll probably get on the topic of counterfeiting.

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Beach Pebbles.

Pebble pinchers are being asked to return them to a popular tourist beach in an effort to claw back stones that are key for coastal defences...

Here is the link to that story.

Pinched pebble plea as crucial beach rocks taken (msn.com)

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Source: nhc.noaa.gov

We have that system off of Georgan and there is Gordon out in the middle of the ocean.  Gordon is supposed to stay out there and won't affect us.

Source: surfguru.com.

So the surf is generally a little higher.  The tides will be over three feet today too.

I forgot to post yesterday.  We had a long power outage after a lightning strike.  

Good hunting,
Treasureguide@comcast.net



Friday, September 13, 2024

9/13/24 Report -Gold Coin Found. Dollar Coins You Can Find. US Coins Used by Other Countries. Counterfeits.

 

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13th Century Gold Coin Found Near Fortress..


A 13th century gold coin was found near a fortress site in Bulgaria.

The existence of the fortification was confirmed archaeologically in 2023, when a 20m long sector was discovered, located southeast of Church #16.

Based on the 462 items found (coins, ceramics, weapons, everyday objects) it was established that the Intermediate Fortress Wall was built in the first years after the Ottoman conquest of Cherven in 1388 and was functional during the first two decades of the 15th century – a time of strife in the Ottoman state, the uprising of the Bulgarians to reject foreign power, as well as the military campaigns of the Wallachian voivode Mircea I Stari south of the Danube...

Here is the link.

Archaeology: 13th century gold coin found during dig in Bulgaria – The Sofia Globe

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Here is question for you: is the currency used in Ecuador?   

a. peso    b. sucre      c. ecu      d. US dollar.

Rampant inflation hurt the economy and devaluated the currency of Ecuador so badly they adopted the US currency for stability.

On 9 January, President Jamil Mahuad announced that the US dollar was to be adopted as Ecuador's official currency, although the US dollar had already had wide informal use in Ecuador before this decision was made. The US dollar became legal tender in Ecuador on 13 March 2000.  Sucre notes ceased to be legal tender on 11 September 2000. Sucre notes were exchangeable at a rate of 25,000 sucre per dollar at Banco Central until 30 March 2001 (wikipedia).

Here is another question for you.  What countries use the U. S. dollar?  Here is the list.

  1. United States of America
  2. Commonwealth of Puerto Rico (Unincorporated territory of the U.S.)
  3. Ecuador
  4. Republic of El Salvador
  5. Republic of Zimbabwe
  6. Guam
  7. The Virgin Islands of the United States
  8. Democratic Republic of Timor-Leste
  9. American Samoa (Unincorporated territory of the U.S.)
  10. Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands (Unincorporated territory of the U.S.)
  11. Federated States of Micronesia
  12. Republic of Palau
  13. Marshall Islands

A 2017 Coin World article said that  over 149.1 million United States dollar coins have been sent to Ecuador since 2002. Paper dollars do find their way to Ecuador, but some Ecuadorians view these bills with suspicion.  Among the popular dollar coins are the Sacajawea and Anthony one dollar coins. 

Ecuadorians generally do not use one-dollar bills, they use one-dollar coins (the gold-colored coins that the US began minting in 2000 are very popular). These coins last longer than paper one-dollar bills, so this added durability is helpful in a country that does not mint its own currency. Fifty-cent pieces (the JFK coins) are also more commonly used than in the US. Interestingly, for amounts less than one dollar, Ecuador has its own equivalent coins that are still denominated in USD. These American and Ecuadorian coins in amounts of 50, 25, 10, and 5 cents circulate side-by-side in Ecuador. US pennies are also in common circulation, yet while Ecuadorian pennies do exist, they are uncommon... (Source: Ecuador’s one and only official currency is the US Dollar — People Places and Thoughts)

Below is a Sacajewia one-dollar coin.

Sacagawea Dollar coin.

The Ecuadorians like the Sacajawea dollar and many took the image of Sacajawea to be an indigenous Ecuadorian.  I can see that.

I've found a good number of Susan B. Anthony dollar coins, but I don't believe I've ever found a Sacajawea dollar coin.

For more about Florida metal detected one-dollar coins, see The Treasure Beaches Report Direct From Florida's Treasure Coast.: 2/11/12 Report - Dollar Coins Possible Boon to Detectorists & Some Fabulous Spanish Coins.

As a result of the popularity and use of dollar coins in Ecuador, there has been large scale counterfeiting of those types of coins in the neighboring country of Colombia.  According to Gurney, millions of counterfeit one-dollar coins have been produced.

That is only a small part of the counterfeiting problem.  The BBC reports the counterfeiting of one-pound coins has reached the point that one in every 50 one-pound coins in circulation are counterfeit.

I'll have a lot more on counterfeiting in future posts, including the counterfeiting of eight reales.

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Source:nhc.noaa.gov.

So Francine has come and gone, and it looks like Gordon will be a fish storm.


Source; surfguru.com.

Nothing exciting.  I'll be glad when the weather cools down a little.

Good hunting,

Treasureguide@comcast.net

Thursday, September 12, 2024

9/12/24 Report - Canadian Small Cent Florida Metal Detector Finds. Whiteman Folders. George Cable New Orleans.

 

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Group of Florida Metal Detected Canadian Dimes and Quarters.


I've been talking about the advisability of inspecting foreign coins as well as US coin finds.  There is always the possibility of valuable errors and varieties being found, no matter what country the coin comes from.

Yesterday I showed a couple silver Canadian coin finds.  Above is a group of metal detected clad Canadian dimes and quarters.

And below is a group of Canadian pennies.

Group of Florida Metal Detected Canadian Pennies.


The interesting thing about Canadian pennies is that they haven't been produced since 2012 and people were asked to return their pennies to financial institutions.  Without pennies payments are rounded to the nearest five cents.  See Canada's penny withdrawal: All you need to know | CBC News

The finds in the group shown above range from 1943 to 1987.  I have some older Canadian cent coins, including a large cent.

Here is the oldest of this group. 

1943 Canadian One Cent.

1943 Canadian Cent.

These two are only worth a few cents.

I found a good site showing a number of error and variety pennies including those of the 1950s and 1960s.


Below is an Elizabeth II 1955 Canadian One Cent Coin.

1955 Canadian Penny Find.


And here is the newest Canadian once-cent coin from the group.  Notice the edge which is angled instead of round.  


1987 One-Cent Canadian Coin.

The following table gives the changing composition of the recent one-cent Canadian coins.





I'll have to inspect my Canadian pennies for any interesting errors or varieties.  I just haven't done that yet, but plan to do that soon.  

Maybe I'll get a Whitman folder for these coins.  Being discontinued, Canadian small cents would make a nice collection.


Whitman Coin Folder.

I like these coin folders.  They make it easy to keep track of a collection and easily upgrade the collection with better examples as you get them.

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Source: nhc.noaa.gov.

Francine made landfall and there are a couple more areas to watch in the Atlantic basin.


New Orleans has a lot of interesting history and had a very interesting and complex culture.  I've read several books on old New Orleans, including the The Grandissimes: A Story of Creole Life, a well as other books by George Washinton Cable, who wrote historical novels about culture and race relations around the beginning of the 19th Century.  Highly recommended for understanding the history and culture of old New Orleans.  If you read Cable, you'll get a glimpse into a society very different from today's.  Do you know what a quadroon is?  You'll find out.  The one drop rule didn't hold then.


Fort Pierce Area Surf Prediction
Source: Surfguru.com.

Not any big surf yet.

Good hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net


Wednesday, September 11, 2024

9/11/24 Report - 911 Near A Generation Later. Looking at Some Silver Canadian Coin Metal Detector Finds.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.

9-11-2021.

Twenty-three years ago!  Can you believe it?  Unless you are very young, you probably remember that morning.  I do.  But the most shocking image to me was the building crumbling into dust - the destination of all people and things.  A huge intelligence failure.   A huge failure, but not the last.  

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1930 Dime Florida Beach Find.


Yesterday I was talking about world coins and the benefit of examining those coin finds for value, errors and varieties the same way we examine US coins.  I'm sure one reason we often don't do that is we are not as familiar with world coins.  Furthermore, it seems to me that the resources are not as plentiful, both online and otherwise, for world coins.  Maybe I'm not as familiar with the resources for world coins because I just haven't gotten into world coins simply because I don't deal with them as much.

I decided to take a closer look at my world coins, and started with a couple silver Canadian coin finds.

After checking, I found the above coin is 80% silver and 20% copper.  It is a ten-cent coin - a very light coin of 2.32 grams with a melt value of somewhere around $1.70 (Canadian). 

Below are the collector values that run from around $1.70 to quite a bit more than melt, as you can see below.  This particular coin is nice, but I'd have to look up some of the grading guidelines to get an estimate of its condition.  

You can find guidelines online to help you grade coins.  I'd probably take it to a coin shop or post it on the coincommunity forum. 

Yes


I'm thinking maybe it would grade as fine.  What do you think?

The Sheldon scale is commonly used to assist with grading coins.  Here is a link.

Grading Guide — Canadian Coins (canadian-coins.ca)

I learned of one very valuable Canadian dime. It is the 1936 "dot" dime.   Details below.

I haven't found any valuable errors or varieties for the 1930 dime yet.

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1967 Canadian Quarter Found on a Treasure Coast Beach.

I've found two 1967 Lynx commemorative quarters like the one shown above.  These were made in both 80% and 50% silver, and it is next to impossible to tell the difference from visual inspection or readily available home tests.  Specific gravity or XRF analysis is necessary.  

Naturally the quarter is heavier than the dime and can be worth more like $6.50 (Canadian) in silver, depending, of course, upon the changing value of silver and which you have.

Besides the 80 and 50 percent Lynx quarters, there are also a few (very few) made of nickel, which are very valuable.  The problem is to identify which you have.

This is a particularly difficult coin to value.  Many shops will not buy these because of the difficulty of determining the composition.  That, of course, can be solved with XRF testing.

I found no convenient list of errors or varieties for Canadian coins yet.  I'd assume there must be books.  

Below is a link to a list of Canadian penny errors to look for.

Canadian Penny Error List | CoinHub (coinhubmedia.com)

I'll take a look at a few Canadian one-cent and five-cent coins in the future.  I've found a lot of those.

I'll continue to look for better resources for Canadian coins too.

As Florida beach metal detector finds, Canadian coins are too numerous to neglect.

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Source: nhc.noaa.gov

The Atlantic Basin is more active, as would be expected.  Francine is near Louisiana.  

Not much immediate to concern us.

Source: SurfGuru.com.

No big surf predicted, but a little bigger surf next week.

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If you like war, crime and inflation, you know who to vote for.  Actions speak louder than words.

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Good hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net


Tuesday, September 10, 2024

9/10/24 Report - US and Canadian Silver Coins and When They Changed. What Is Happening On The Storms Scene.


 Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.


1968 Canadian Quarter  Metal Detector Find.


Detectorists generally like to find coins made before 1965 because dimes, quarters and some other US coins before that date had more content.  Even in poor condition those older silver coins have some value.  

As you probably know, after 1965, US dimes and quarters no longer contained silver.The 1965 Coin Act (History & Impact of the Coinage Act of 1965 | U.S. Money Reserve (usmoneyreserve.com) led to a change.  

I always checked the dates for found US coins looking for those older cons containing silver, but I wasn't as knowledgeable about world coins.  I found a lot of Canadian coins in South Florida, but never knew a lot about them and never paid a lot of attention to them. I just put them away.

It turns out that the situation is a just little more complex for Canadian coins.  The 1968 quarter shown above could be 50% silver.  Canada changed the composition of their dimes and quarter a little later than the US.  They changed from 80% silver to 50% silver mid 1967.

Mid 1968 they then discontinued silver in those denominations.  So Canada was later to discontinue silver in dimes and quarters than the US and had two years of decreased silver content.


80% Silver Canadian Dime.
Metal Detector Find.

It is difficult to identify the 50% silver coins since the change came mid year. Other features, including the weight, are the same.  Junk silver dealers generally won't take the 1967 and 1968 coins because it is so difficult to tell the difference.

It was a good while before I learned that I had silver Canadian coins that dated later 1965, but one thing I still have not done is check my Canadian coins for different errors and varieties.

I checked many of my older US coin finds for errors or rare varieties to some extent because I have a nice book that tells me what to look for, but I have not done the same for my Canadian coins even though I have quite a few.  Unless I can find a cheap book on modern Canadian coin errors and varieties, I'll try to find some other easy method.  I'll check out some of the online resources to see how that goes.  If it is not to cumbersome, I'll go through some of my Canadian coins that way. 

I'm also plan some other tests on the 1967 and 1968 Canadian dimes and quarters.

Looking up the world coins individually seems very slow, but it can be worthwhile.  Hopefully I'll find more like 1942 0.64 silver coin shown below.



See The Treasure Beaches Report Direct From Florida's Treasure Coast.: 7/4/18 Report - Super Quick Way to Scan Coins. Applied Lip 19th Century Bottles.

To sum it up today, you might have more silver coins than you think.  Take time to examine your foreign coins.  See if they might be silver or display other features that could make them valuable.  That includes both possible errors or rare varieties.

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Source: nhc.noaa.gov

Francine is expected to hit Louisiana as a hurricane.

I'll be watching those other two areas.

Good hunting,

Treasuregujide@comcast.net




Coins and Canada - Silver and gold melt values calculator of Canadian coins

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The quarter shown above is 50% silver and has some silver melt value, which, at the this time, would be about $2.63 Canadian.  At this time a Canadian dollar is worth about 74 US cents.  



Canada stopped .800 silver coins in 1967 and reduced the fineness to .500 fine in 1967-68. All silver business strike silver coin production ceased after 1968.


checking dates, even if they don't go so far as to check for errors and varieties, they might not pay so much attention to their foreign coin finds.  Since Florida is a tourist state and gets a lot of visitors from other countries, you can find a good number or world coins, especially in some areas.

A 1964 quarter, as of this date, is worth around $5.13 for its silver content.  Of course you won't get quite that much if you try to sell it to a a reseller who will expect to make a profit.  Nonetheless, most detectorists are happy to find a few dollars worth of silver even if they are not coin collectors.  It adds up and help pay for expenses even if the detectorist isn't much of a collector.


Hollywood Florida in years past attracted a lot of canadian visitors.  As a result, I found a good number of Canadian coins.  I showed in one old post, how to use a magnet to quickly pick out the silver Canadian coins.


While I had checked my US coins for both silver and other possible errors or varieites, I had not done the same for my world coins.  That included Canadian coins, and I have a good number of them.

While I previously checked my Canadian coins for silver, I did not check my world coins as well as my US coins for valuable errors or varieties.  I simply didn't have a good book about Canadian or other world coin errors and varieties, but as you know, you can find all of that on the internet these days.





If you are like me you could have overlooked something.  

Monday, September 9, 2024

9/9/24 Report - Predictions and Tropical Storm Francine To Become Hurricane. Beach Access issues. Heads or Tails: How To Tell.

 

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Source: nhc.noaa.gov.

Francine, which can be seen above on the NHC map, is a tropical storm, but could hit Louisiana as a hurricane.

Source: nhc.noaa.gov

You can see the predicted track above.  

Not long ago, I mentioned the treasures of Padre Island, which will undoubtedly be affected.

Beow are two additonal links about that.

Houston storm: Tropical Storm Francine forms off Mexico and is expected to hit Louisiana as Hurricane Francine - ABC7 New York (abc7ny.com)

Potential Storm Six Predicted To Pass Near Or Over Upper Texas Coast As Hurricane On Wednesday (spiritdaily.org)

The Outer Banks of North Carolina, another good location for beach treasures is being eroded.

High surf knocked down the dunes along the North Carolina Outer Banks Sunday afternoon, covering the main highway at the coast with water and sand...

Here is the link for more about that.

Outer Banks surf washes away Pea Island dunes, flooding highway (msn.com)

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A group of multi-millionaire homeowners in Florida are fighting to protect their exclusive access to some of the state's most scenic beaches from tourists.

Residents in Walton County are attempting to keep off visitors from their private beaches as a growing number of tourists argue that their property rights are unfair.

The county which boasts 26 miles of crystal blue water coastline and 16 beachside communities has become a vacation hotspot in the past few years.

Last year, the county hosted over 2.3 million tourists and counting and about 1.3 million people visited this spring.

But as popularity increases, longtime beachgoers argue that public access area has become extremely crowded over the years...


Here is the link.

 Multi-millionaire locals fight to keep crowds off private beaches (msn.com)

That conflict between beach-front homeowners is a common conflict.  

Terms like mean high tide line that are often misunderstood and come into play.  I've had a few encounters hotel or resort owners over the years and in one case a state park and in one case a security guard that seemed to think I was parking in a handicapped space when the lot was covered with sand.  

If you have a question, you can call the officials and get the straight scoop.  I've found that very helpful in the past.  

There was a beach front club that said I couldn't detect on the beach in front of the club.  The officials told me I had a right to detect back to the erosion control markers, which was back by the dunes and way farther back than I wanted to go.  I was interested in the water, which they absolutely had no right to restrict.  

Access to our Treasure Boast beaches is generally very good.  Closures for renourishment and beach access repairs are the most common restrictions.

The main problem we have is when the beaches are closed when there are storms.  That hasn't been much of a problem lately because we haven't had any big storms.

I do hate when the close the beach parks and accesses for storms when it does not seem to be at all necessary.

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Which is the obverse and which is the reverse of a coin?  That usually seems simple enough, but it gets more complicated than you might think.

In ancient times the obverse was the die that was set in the anvil.  That makes it easy enough.  

But things were made more complex when the subject depicted became more of a determinant.  The Romans decided that the portrait of the emperor was on the obverse.

The Spanish, by convention of law, when the king's portrait was not used, the side bearing the name and arms of Spain would be the obverse.  Mexico designated the side bearing the name of the country and national coat of arms and as the obverse.

The United States convention is that the side with the person's head is the obverse - thus heads.  The tails side was originally most often the eagle.

Source: Counterfeit Portrait Eight-Reales: The Un-real Reales, by Robert Gurney.

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Good hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Sunday, September 8, 2024

9/8/24 Report - Roman Coins Found. Learning From Treasure Find Stories. Hurricane Season. Giant Oarfish Omen.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.



ROME, Sept 2 (Reuters) - A rare haul of 27 silver Roman coins dated between 94 and 74 BC has been discovered on the remote island of Pantelleria, the Sicily region said on Monday...
The discovery was on the same site where 107 Roman silver coins had been unearthed in 2010 and not far from where the three famous imperial statue heads of Caesar, Agrippina and Titus had been found a few years earlier.
The coins would have been minted in Rome and date back to the Republican age, the same period as the first find...
Some coins appeared in the loose soil after recent heavy rains while the others were found under a rock during the excavations and have already been cleaned and inventoried.
The archaeologist Schaefer speculated that the treasure was hidden during a pirates' attack and never retrieved.

Here is the link for more about that.

Haul of ancient Roman coins discovered in Sicily | Reuters

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Pay attention to the clips like the one above that I post.  There are always tips or lessons to be found.

When you read a clip like that as yourself; where was the item found, how was it found, and what are the implications for you.  Also take a good look at the item and see what you can learn about identifying items of that type and age.  

In this case, coins were found on the same site where a lot of coins had previously been found.  So what does that tell you.  It confirms something I've often said.  When you find one, there is a good chance there are more.  Intensify your efforts in the same area until you've done ALL you can do.  And after you've done all you can do, give the site some time for things to change, go back to it again, perhaps with different techniques and technologies.  When you give the site a little time, things will change and new finds might become available.  On a beach things might change for the better or worse, but they will change.  On a land site rain and other things might help make more finds available.

The article mentions rain but also rocks.  I always like to look under rocks.  That includes on the beach too.  I've found good things under rocks.  Not always but sometimes.  Same goes for logs and other obstacles.  Don't just detect the easy spot that others would have cleaned out before you.  That goes for the beach too.  Don't just hit the easiest and most likely spots.

One thing about land sites is tha most detectorists will metal detect the clear open easy ground but there is a good chance they will miss areas under bushes, in the weeds (which you might want to cut), around fences and other metal, such as rebar in buildings or walks.

And then there is the mention of pirate attack. Knowing something of the history of the site can be a big help.  What happened at the location and how would things be lost to time..

So when you read a story like that, you can skip over it quickly thinking that has nothing to do with you or the Treasure Coast or you can pick up on those kinds of things and add it all to your mental databank.

More effective behavior results from seeing connections and general principles and their significance, and then storing it away and using what you learned in the future.  

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Now, the Atlantic is making history for an unexpected and confounding distinction: It’s the longest stretch in more than half a century without a single late-summer cyclone, a time of year when several often churn at once.

That is what the Washington Post says.

Here is the link.


If you try to read that story on the New York Times you'll have to subscribe, so here it is on the Washington Post.

Most stories are quickly picked up by multiple sites these days so when you go to a site that requires payment you can usually find the same story on a free site.

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While there is no evidence to back up the link between oarfish sightings and earthquakes, in August 2024 snorkelers found an oarfish in California — two days before an earthquake hit the region.  However, scientists believe this was a coincidence...

Here is that link.

Giant oarfish: The 'doomsday' fish of legend that supposedly foreshadows earthquakes | Live Science

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I just added the study on metal detected pistareens of America to the reference link list for your convenience.  

It is at the bottom of the list.

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Meteorologists are fretting about a failed prediction for the current hurricane season, they are now thinking that global warming could actually cut down on the number of hurricanes while creating superstorms of those that do form.  

It looks like Texas could be hit by the system developing in the Gulf.  There is one other system out there that could come our way.

Nothing higher than two or three foot surf Tuesday and Wednesday this week.

Good hunting,

Treasureguide@comcast.net

Saturday, September 7, 2024

9/7/24 Report - Ancient Gold Coins Found. Changes: Remembering a Changing Treasure Beach and Other Things.




... During a recent expedition, archaeologists excavated a medieval dwelling in Debnevo that had been badly damaged by fire. The occupants appeared to have abandoned their house following the fire in the 10th century, and the team recovered iron tools, including two sickles and two axes; a belt buckle; ceramic vessels; and three bronze rings — in addition to five gold coins that were around 400 years older than the house...

Here is the link for more about that.

1,500-year-old gold coins from Byzantine Empire discovered in medieval dwelling in Bulgaria | Live Science

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While aging might not be kind in some ways, such as losing family members and friends or aches and pains, there is definitely the benefit of additional and experience and perspective that comes with age.  That is something a younger person can not appreciate.   

One thing that amazes me is that the new latest and greatest thing isn't new at all, except perhaps in detail and public awareness.  Advances seldom come as quickly or suddenly as it seems.  Covid led to a lot of people working from home, which seemed to be a big-deal new thing for the media, but it wasn't all that new to me.  I was working out of my home back in the 1970s after my company, which was a very innovative high-tech company moved me to South Florida to work out of my home.  They started exploring that as Project Homework.  A few were involved, such as myself, and a lot of others wanted to be involved.  I wasn't on the internet then because it wasn't out there like it is today, but I was on an international computer network that provided similar capabilities.  My terminal was linked by phone lines into a international mainframe computer network that provided email and forums as well as other forms of telecommunication, such as "monitor mode" that allowed remotely viewing the display screen of others while chatting online.  We had flat screen plasma displays with touch panels and high-resolution graphics.  That was before personal computers and the internet.

The latest big buzz seems to be around AI, but I have several textbooks on AI that were published back in the 1970s.  AI systems and applications are more developed and available now, but it is not such a revolutionary idea even though you hear a lot more about it now.  

So where am I going with this?  As I said, things just don't suddenly appear from nowhere.  There is usually a lengthy development period and then at some point the public becomes aware and interested.  Somewhere today, and yesterday, there are people working on the technologies that will suddenly leap into the spotlight as the new big thing of tomorrow.  

I don't remember exactly when I first learned about the treasures of the Treasure Coast, but I know I got more into after I got into metal detecting.  I began reading. all I could find about treasure and treasure hunting.  I still have, and have mentioned in this blog, some of the books I read back then.  And I still have boxes of old Xerox photocopies as well as old magazines.

I don't really remember my first time metal detecting on the Treasure Coast, but I do know that I didn't find a cob or anything from a shipwreck for quite a while.  I remember that I became discouraged after making the trip a few times and wondered if I'd ever find one of those pieces of shipwreck treasure.  

I didn't know much of anything about the Treasure Coast beaches, but I had learned from hunting modern coins and jewelry in South Florida about erosion and reading beaches and quite a few other metal detecting skills that naturally applied to the Treasure Coast.  Still, when I made the trip from South Florida, I wasn't aware of the conditions of the Treasure Coast beaches.   There weren't all the online resources back then. That is something I had in mind years later when I started the Treasure Beaches Report.  I hoped to spare other people some of the wasted trips.

I've told the story of my first Treasure Coast silver find before, and how my wife almost tossed it, and how I took it home and tested it and researched it before knowing for sure what I had.  It is interesting how knowledge is accumulated slowly and incrementally and keeps accumulating.  I've learned a lot since then.  It has been a slow but steady incremental process.  You just keep adding pieces to the puzzle and bits fit together to provide greater understanding. 

I was recently thinking back about the Treasure Coast beaches and changes that have occurred.  They look a lot different today. 

I was thinking about John Brooks and remembered the wooden markers or signs hanging in the trees all along the beach.  Each plaque was maybe two feet square, or near that, and each one had a big letter painted on it.   The salvage crews used those signs to triangulate their position.  That was in the days before GPS.  Along John Brooks and Frederick Douglass were signs with the letters running from A to maybe or higher.  Not only are those signs gone now, as they have been for a good time, but many of the pine trees that held them are now gone also.  

The beach accesses are more developed than they were back then.  Some were nothing more than a narrow dusty two wheeled path through the weeds and wild vegetation.  Now the beach accesses are more like city parks with paved and lined parking spaces.  

At brooks, the walkover came, was repaired and changed a few times, and now is gone again.  It was futile to try to keep it from becoming covered by drifting sand.

The once well-known landmark referred to as the Christmas Tree disappeared years ago.  It was a dead tree that people decorated with found items from the beach.  It was usually decorated with rope, old buoys, and whatever else recently washed up.  I think it is shown in Kevin Reilly's book but hasn't been on the beach for many years.  I think, but don't recall for sure, that it disappeared during the 2004 hurricanes.  Maybe it was before that.

What was it, maybe fifteen or twenty years ago, when they removed many of the pine trees from along John Books.

Of course, the beach got wider and narrower many times over the years, occasionally drastically.

There was a time way before the 2004 hurricanes when the beach was cut back to right in front of the condos to the north.  A line of old pine stumps was visible at the water line to the north of Brooks at one time too, and a concrete foundation appeared up by the bend there.  I've not seen the stumps or foundation again.  The beach is much wider there now.  

Beaches change.  As they say, beaches are dynamic systems, but what is behind the beaches changes too.  They keep removing the trees and buildings keep springing up.

The longer I think of it, the more I remember.  It seems like an endless well of memories  One thing leads to ten more.  

I think of days I showed up and saw the beach dramatically changed.  I think of many different finds.  I think of more than I remembered at first.

One day in particular sticks out.  Mo had the Virgalona backed up as close as possible to the beach.  Bob Luyendyk waited in his dive suit while they blew the sand up in front of the beach.  As you might know, both of those guys are now gone, as are so many others.

I don't know how many of you remember the signs in the trees - I know there are some, but probably most of you do not.  And I don't know how many of you remember the Christmas Tree.  I know some of you do.  But many never saw it.

It won't be long before no one that visits the signs, the Christmas tree, the many pine trees or the open areas, but they'll have their memories that fade into the distant past too.

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The Treasure Coast surf is trending up this week, but only a very little - mostly two or three feet.

The high tides are now trending down from recent highs.

There is only one X on the NHC map right now.  It is down by Yucatan.  Nothing to bother with.

Good hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net






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Friday, September 6, 2024

9/6/24 Report - Titanic News. Valuable Gold Watch Salvaged and Sold. Medieval Pictish Ring. Increasing Surf.

 

Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.


Titanic Bow Showing Newly Missing Rail Part.
Source:CNN Report


RMS Titanic, Inc. is an affiliate of Experiential Media Group ‘EMG’, LLC. The Company was granted salvage rights to the wreck of the RMS Titanic by a United States Federal Court order in 1994 and reconfirmed again in 1996. The court award includes the exclusive rights to recover the artifacts from the wreck site. Using Titanic’s artifacts in concert with scientific data and social history, RMS Titanic, Inc. brings to life TITANIC: The Artifact Exhibition.  Source: About Us - RMS Titanic - Discover Titanic

The latest expedition by RMS Titanic Inc., an American company with salvage rights to the wreck, has revealed that a section of the previously intact railing around the front of the ship’s upper deck has fallen off. The 15-foot-long section now lies on the sea floor, directly below where it once was.

“We are saddened by this loss and the inevitable decay of the Ship and the debris,” the company said in a  statement on its website.

Here is the link for more of that article.

Titanic: New photos show major decay to legendary wreck | CNN


Gold Watch of Titanic Passenger Recovered and Sold.



A gold watch worn by John Jacob Astor IV, a member of the wealthy Astor family and the richest man aboard the Titanic, sold for a record-breaking £1.175 million ($1.485 million) at auction on Saturday.

The timepiece sold for ten times its expected auction price of between £100,000 and £150,000.

Its high selling point has set a “new world record for Titanic memorabilia,” Andrew Aldridge, the managing director of auction house Henry Aldridge and Son, told CNN on Sunday...

Here is that link.

Gold watch worn by richest passenger aboard Titanic sells for record-breaking $1.5 million | CNN

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"Even before the conservation work we could see it was something really exciting as despite more than a thousand years in the ground we could see glints of the possible garnet setting," he said.

"There are very few Pictish rings which have ever been discovered and those we do know about usually come from hoards which were placed in the ground deliberately for safekeeping in some way. We certainly weren't expecting to find something like this lying around the floor of what was once a house but that had appeared of low significance so, in typical fashion, we had left work on it until the final day of the dig."

Here is the link to that article.

'Truly Remarkable' Early Medieval Ring With Intricate Design Discovered - Newsweek

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Source: nhc.noaa.gov



Despite the appearance of the map, chances of tropical development in the Atlantic is decreasing.  See Chances decrease for tropical development in the Atlantic basin | Watch (msn.com)





The surf is increasing a touch typical of this time of year.

Good hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net


Wednesday, September 4, 2024

9/5/24 Report - Cut Piece-of-Eight Possibly Identified. Old World Eight Reale. Atlantic Getting Active.

 

Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.

Reverse and Obverse Views of Cut Piece Found on Treasure Coast Beach by Scott C.

Scott C. found the piece shown above on a Treasure Coast beach.  I previously posted the reverse.  He just sent me the picture of the obverse.  I've been checking around to see if I could figure out what reale it came from.  I found one good match so far.  It is shown below.


Seville Eight Reales (1731 - 1735) with PA Assayers Mark.
Source: Calico et al Monedas Espanolas, 6th ed., p. 278.

The black lines I added are approximately, not exactly, where Scott's coin was cut.  The obverse cut should include the entire "P."  But you can see that those wedges match Scott's cut piece pretty well.  It is the best match I have found so far.  

Let me know if you can identify additional or better matches.

One thing that helped me pick out this Seville coin from other similar coins such as the Segovia eight-reale, which matches pretty well on the one side.  The A, which is the assayer mark, separates the Seville coin from most others.

Not only is this coin an Old World coin, but it also dates well after 1715.  

There could be other matches that I haven't found yet, but so far this is my best match, and it seems like a pretty good match to me.

I'll refer once more to the study I talked about yesterday.  You might remember that the study involved 199 metal detected pistareens from what was called the Tobacco Colonies.

Old world Spanish coins and pieces, like the one shown above were among those found and included in the study.  

Below is the number of Old World finds from each Old World Spanish mint.



Coincidentally, or not, the highest number were from the Seville mint.  The Madrid and Segovia mints came in second and third.

Below is an excerpt from the same study talking about how the cut pieces were so often underweight.  Only three percent of the cut half bits were of their full fair weight.


Did you notice that the cut piece found by Scott was not cut on the cross (lines) and is short of a quarter of the original coin?

Of course, it is possible that it was intentionally cut in fifths rather than fourths.  

There are just so many details in the study that I referred to it again and suggest it as recommende reading.  Here is that link once again.

(99+) THE COLONIAL NEWSLETTER When Cross Pistareens Cut Their Way Through the Tobacco Colonies | Bill Snyder - Academia.edu

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Russia, Russia, Russia!  Try it one more time.  The election is gettng near, and the Chinese assets in the FIB like that one.  

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Sourcea: nhc.noaa.gov.

Lots going on now.  Look at that busy map.

The surf is a little higher this week and we are still having good high tides.

Good hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net