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Monday, September 30, 2024

10/1/24 Report - Windows, Weights and Glass: Finds and How to Estimate the Age. Higher Surf Coming Again.

 

.Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.


Window Weights.

I found these at an old home site.  You might recognize them immediately.  They are window weights.  

They are iron.  The top one is about fifteen inches long and the others are more like seven inches long.

They have some markings.  You can see the VI on the top one.  The middle one might have a brand name or something, but I can't read it.

The middle one also has a hook on one side so you could link them.  One person told me they never saw that before.

They counterbalanced vertical sash windwws and were hidden in the frame and connected by a rope.  Correct me if I got the terminology wrong.

My research on the house revealed tht the house was built in 1902.

Since I am on weights, here is another.  

Clock Weight.

This weight is similar but not a window weight.  This one is a weight for a clock.  It is about five inches long.  It is nicer looking.  It is has a smoother finish and a nice little hook in the depression at the top.

I don't know how I got the background whited out.  It was taken on the same concrete but from the lighted side.  I guess that washed out the background.  I'll have to remember how to do that.

But what got me started on this topic wasn't the weights.  I was looking into window glass, which can be used to help date a site.  Window glass has been made for centuries and, like almost everything, evolved from very primitive to more perfect.  I found some good articles and web sites about that.

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 When you find a flat piece of glass you might pass it up immediately thinking it is modern, but there is older window glass and there are ways to estimate the age of that glass.  Below is an except from one article.


A Dig Reveals the Ways of One of Eastham’s Early Settlers

John Doane was wealthy, pious, and industrious and may have feared witches...


“Glass is a real status symbol in 17th-century New England,” Chenoweth said. It had to be imported from England, which meant it had to survive a voyage in the hull of a rocking ship. Plus, “once you break a pane of glass, it’s useless,” he said. A house with glass windows, then, would be evidence of disposable income.

During the excavation, his team found several pieces of iron slag as well as poor-quality molten glass “like you might make the first time you try making glass,” Chenoweth said. He believes that these are evidence that Doane was trying his hand at glass production and smithing or refining iron.

Industry in the early colonial period is thought to have been rare, Chenoweth said, but historical records show that a pine tar kiln was part of Doane’s property, and other industrial practices may have been valuable in a society so cut off from the rest of the European world. In a place like this, “you’re going to need to find a way to repair your tools or to make new tools,” Chenoweth said.

Those three paragraphs are excerpted from the followi g article.

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Below is a link to a great site on the history of windows.  It is brief but provides links to some other good sites.

Check it out.

Among the links provide is this one.

Windows Through Time Exhibit — Historic Preservation Education Foundation (hpef.us)

Changes in the construction and appearance of American windows over the last three centuries have reflected the crafts and technology of the time as well as the popularity of particular window styles. As one of the most important and prominent features of historic buildings—both inside and out—window’s have windows have begun to receive the same attention as other more decorative architectural element. “Windows Through Time” is a project of the Historic Preservation Education Foundation to catalog and document historic windows which illustrate many of the major changes to windows from 1630s to the 1950s. This catalog project is intended to foster a public understanding and appreciation of windows in historic buildings—their appearance and operation, their construction and design, and their historic evolution. A rare glimpse into one of the most neglected yet important features of historic buildings...

Concerning 18th centuries windows it says...

Available glass included broad or cylinder glass which came from glass blown in a cylinder, split and rolled into a flat sheet and then cut into panes. The best quality, however, was crown glass which was blown into a disk and then cut into panes. Windows were small in size and few in number, due to the cost of glass, which mostly had to be imported, and in northern climates, for greater protection against the harsh winter weather. Following the introduction of vertical sliding sash early in the eighteenth century, the casement window fell from favor in this country...


This web site shows examples and provides sections on 18 19th and 20th century windows.

Check it out.

I'm sure the Bryson',s book, At Home: A Short History of Private Life also provides some good history on the evolution of window glass.  I'll have to find my copy.  It is a great book that you'll find it both interesting and helpful.

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Source:nhc.noaa.gov.

I'm still hoping that one down by Central America doesn't build up and hit the Gulf Coast again.

We don't need that.


Surfguru.com.

We'll have some higher surf in a few days.  

The tides are still high.


9/30/24 Report - Attempt to Salvage Spanish Ship in 1920s Described in Old Newspaper Along With Other Fort Pierce News. Post Helene News.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.

Source: wptv.com (see link below).



Powerful waves from Hurricane Helene leave lasting impact on Treasure Coast
'The sand was just blowing everywhere. The rip currents and stuff, it was scary,' Erica Lemaster says

Mongelas said he saw up to 6-foot waves and multiple rip currents as Helene moved across Florida Thursday, and said his crews were out warning beach-goers of the double red flag warning...



Below is the link for more about that.

Source: 'Crazy stuff': Powerful waves from Helene leave lasting impact on Treasure Coast (wptv.com)

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The Nov. 24, 1941 Fort Lauderdale newspaper described a failed attempt conducted in the late 1920s to recover the treasure of a Spanish ship that sank in 1786 off of the Hillsboro Inlet Lighthouse. 

I didn't go back to verify any of the details given in the story but do know that Spanish treasure coins were found around the Pompano pier as well as north to the lighthouse.  I also know that Keven Reilly and his buddies were removed from the lighthouse property by the police when they attempted to metal detect there.  (Kevin is now deceased.}

I found the description of the salvage techniques interesting, with some exxceptions, not being much different than those used decades later.

Notice also the mention of another ship seemingly from the same fleet being described in the 1940s as visible in the Fort Pierce area.

Anyhow, here is the story that you can read for yourselves. 




I do know of silver treasure coins found by detectorists in the area of the Pompano Pier and north to the inlet.

Also notice the small story at the end of the treasure story about steamship shipping from Fort Pierce being suspended.

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Source: nhc.noaa.gov.

There is a lot of activity on the map.  The yellow x down by Central America is too close to the same area that spawned Helene and another storm - was it Gordon?  We can't afford to have another like Helene, which did extensive damage all the way up to North Carolina and Virginia.  Property insurance is already ridiculously high.  This won't help.  Keep watching that.

Also do what you can to help those many people who suffered so much damage from Helene.


Source: SurfGuru.com.

So the surf is down for a while, but we are going to have some really high tides.

Good hunting,

TtreasureGuide@comcast.net


Sunday, September 29, 2024

9/29/24 - Aftermath of Helene. Lead and Cannon Aprons: A Fascinating Puzzle. Cedar Key Damage and History.

 Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.

Broken Spike Found by Kurt R.

Yesterday, shortly after I posted my post, I received the above photo along with some photos of Seagrape Trail.  Kurt said when he stopped at the beach he didn't have his detector with him but found the above broken spike.  Can't see the shape of it well enough in the photo.    

As I've said before, you can sometimes eyeball things, and when there are surface finds, you can go back later with your metal detector and see if there is any more to be found.  When there are surface finds, there are often additional buried objects.  It would have been a good idea to return with a good deep seeking detector, being careful not to discriminate oit any additional iron objects.

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Yesterday I also posted photos that DJ took of Turtle Trail.  Among his finds was a crumpled piece of lead, which he researched.  Here is his lead find.

Lead Found by DJ at Turtle Trail.

He included the follow-up email.

Just a note to thank you for the great resource of both TreasureGuide articles [ie. blog sites].

I found the small piece of folded lead nearby the two partial bullet casings the center fire primers are easily seen but newer so I did not photograph or try to date them.

I had never found a piece of lead like this and thought I would search both Treasure Guides. I found a reference in Part 2 but a really nice article you wrote of your find in Part 1.

I copied your in-hand photo [shown below] just for size comparison. 

That is a hard item to photograph so I just did a side one and side two.

Very interesting research and article, my find was much smaller than yours, but it was still very enlightening and interesting reading.

In the article you mentioned you might unfold it. Did you ever do so?

Thanks for sharing DJ, and thanks for reminding me of that old post and find. 

To answer your question, I put the folded lead aside for a later time and never got back to it.  In fact, I forgot about it. 

When I was researching my folded lead find years ago, I stumbled upon information about cannon aprons, and one very interesting cannon apron that was recovered from the Queen Anne's Revenge wreck stie. That cannon apron showed a variety of carvings that begged interpretation. Here is the link to that fascinating article.  Cannon Apron | Queen Anne's Revenge Project (qaronline.org).

Below is an illustration of the QAR cannon apron and the markings found on it.


Lead Cannon Apron and Markings from qaronline.org.


Those markings don't look to me like random accidental damage to me.. Maybe nothing more than graffiti, but maybe something significant to be deciphered.

Below is my still unopened folded piece of lead.


Folded Lead Found by TG on a Treasure Coast beach
and shown in the 4/26/19 treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

Immediately below is the link to my original post on cannon aprons.  

https://treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com/search?q=Folded+lead

The old treasurebeachesreport.blgospot.com blog still draws hundreds or thousands of views daily.  I forgot about my post on cannon aprons and was glad to be reminded of it.

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As you now know, hurricane Helene caused a lot of destruction.  Among the hardest hit places is Cedar Key, which has a very rch and interesting history including pirates and Civil War events.  Regrettably it is one of those historic out-of-the-way Florida places that I have never visited.

Here is a link for a site showing the destruction on Cedar Key.

Florida resident gives tour of devastated, flattened Cedar Key in the wake of Helene's wrath | AP News

And here is a link for more information on the history of Cedar Key.

Cedar Key Historical Society Museum - Nostalgia, Cedar Key History

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Source: nhc.noaa.gov

A lot of activity on that map, but nothing to be concerned about in the short term.

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Source: SurfGuru.com.

The surf is small now, but we are still having some nice high tides.

Good hunting,

Treasureguide@comcast.net




Saturday, September 28, 2024

9/28/24 Report - After Hurricane Helene: Treasure Coast Beaches and Metal Detecting Find Photos.

 

Written by the Treasureguide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.


Pearl Necklace Found.
Find and Photo by Mark G.

Helene produced much destruction to a big segment of the country.  On the Treasure Coast, the effects were minimal, but there were some metal detecting finds made as a result of the storm.  The picture above is one find made by Mark G., and below is how he described it.

I got out yesterday planning on hitting a few intracoastal beaches I like and do well at. I figured with all the wind the intracoastal was pretty choppy might be some beach erosion. I figured right, at my second stop, a beach on the east side of the lagoon, I found a deep cut and the sand pushed up about a foot higher than last time I was there. There was a deep cut with a low spot and that’s where I found most of my hits. A few coins and a beautiful pearl necklace came out of that cut. It’s a tear drop design with a real pearl set in 925 silver with 10K gold inlay and 3 real diamonds around the outside. The chain even the clasp and the back of the pendant are all clearly marked.

Congratulations Mark, and thanks for sharing.

I'd like to see more finds from this week.  Let us see what you found.

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1935 Buffalo Nickel Found by Dan K.
Photo by Dan K.

Above is another Helene find and below  the report submitted by Dan K.

Good afternoon,

I wanted to share an interesting beach find I made Thursday night as the storm passed our area. A 1935 Buffalo Nickel. It rang like a normal nickel on my machine. I was surprised and excited when I saw it in my scoop. It appears to have been out there for a long time and been through a lot from the damage to the coin. Also, another interesting thing occurred that evening. There were some crabs on the beach that were registering a tone on my detector. I’m not sure why that would be happening but thought it was interesting.
 Regards.
 Dan

Even though the Treasure Coast didn't get a lot of damage from Helene, it was enough to expose some older items.

Thanks for sharing Dan.

That nickel looks like it would have been in super condition when it was lost.  You can see the date and other details really well.

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DJ sent the following report and the photos of Turtle Trail taken around 10AM Friday.


Turtle Trail Friday.


Here is DJ's report.

There was a lot of renourishment sand missing and at the bottom of the access was some yellow sand. But repeated digging south of the access to past the second flagpole never hit the old yellow sand layer.

Quite a few targets most were iron, a few modern coins, a few pieces of aluminum can and some aluminum color melted metal drips. One piece of what looks like folded lead sheeting (rang up in the lead range) and three bullet casings around the .38 cal size.

At the first flagpole just the top shreds of blue bags were visible at low tide, then the incoming tide covered those up.

One more good event might get us into the old stuff.



Turtle Trail Friday.

Great photos DJ!  

Notice the shells.  


Turtle Trail Friday.


It isn't just coincidence that we got some weather and erosion and some nice beach find photos this week.  The beaches look better than they had all summer.


Miscellaneous Items Dug by DJ at Turtle Trail.

Great photos and nice report DJ.  Thanks for sharing.

Anybody have pictures of the other beaches to share?  How about Ambersands, Sebastian Inlet, Jensen, Jupiter, and  Melbourne?

Thanks in advance.

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Seagrape Trail Friday Morning
by Kurt R.


In addition to these great beach photos, Kurt R. also sent a find photo that I'll post tomorrow along with some more find photos.  I wanted to get the beach photos to you in today's post.

Thanks Kurt.

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Hurricane Helene is one of the most powerful storms to hit the United States with wind gust speeds of 140 mph (225 km/h).

The storm made landfall in Florida as a category four hurricane but was downgraded to a tropical storm as it moved more inland.,,

Here is the link for photos of the destruction.


While detectorists see opportunities from the effects of storms. including erosion from wind, surf and rain and uprooted trees that can all expose treasure, don't forget those who suffer hardship as a result of storms.  Keep them in your prayers and do what you can to provide relief and assistance.

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Source: nhc.noaa.gov.


That is a pretty busy map.  In recent years, we've had some pretty good hunting and some great finds in October and November.


Source: SurfGuru.com.

The tides are still pretty high, but the surf for the coming week is nothing special.

Good hunting,
Treasureguide@comcast.net

Friday, September 27, 2024

9/27/24 Report - Helene Hits Panhandle and Runs. Beaches Reopen Today. Continuing South Winds.

 

Written by the Treasureguide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.


Source: nhc.noaa.gov

Helene is now a tropical storm somewhere up in Georgia.  I'm sure the reports of damage in the Panhandle was extensive though I haven't read the reports yet.

Locally, the Indian River County beaches are expected to open this morning.  

Yesterday, I mentioned an inverted coin line that I found at the bottom of the slope at one beach.  What I mean by "inverted" coin line, is a coin line in which the larger denomination coins were generally higher up the slope, even though ever so slightly, than the pennies.  I didn't dig the entire line so am going from a limited sample size, but from what I dug, it looked like an inverted line.

When the larger coins are higher on the slope, I take that as a sign that the line was created by coins washing out of the sand and down the slope rather than being washed in from the water.  It seems to work out that way.

There was still a lot of sand and I didn't get the impression that there was much chance of anything real old being found where I was.  The coins were encrusted and green, but probably weren't out there more than a few years, at most, and in most cases much less.

The slope was still not very firm, despite the amount of erosion.  The erosion wasn't real fresh by the time I got there yesterday morning.  The waves were pretty parallel to the beach at that time too despite the south wind.  The sand was really blowing along the beach from south to north.


Source: Surfguru.com.

Looks like the wind is still from the south this morning.  I'd check those spots that were eroded by south winds in recent months.  There is a good chance they opened up again.  I'm sure there will be some good spots to metal detect if you search them out.

The high tides are still running pretty high.  Low tides in morning and evening.

More of the beaches will be open today.


Source: surfguru.com.

The surf will be decreasing today and for a few more days before increasing again later next week.

This is more my kind of beach weather.  That summer heat was getting old.  It was a nice change, but I do feel sorry for those people up in the Panhandle.  Maybe make a donation or pitch in somehow.

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Hurricane Helene live updates: 6 dead, 3 million without power.

Here is that link.

Hurricane Helene live updates: 6 dead, 2 million without power (msn.com)


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Why Homes Are Collapsing on Cape Hatteras National Seashore

As sea levels rise because of melting glaciers and ice sheets, coastal communities like Rodanthe face increased risk of damage as the water erodes the shoreline. Since the early 1980s, the sea level along some parts of North Carolina has risen by roughly three inches...

Here is that link.

Why Homes Are Collapsing on Cape Hatteras National Seashore | Smithsonian (smithsonianmag.com)


Three inches of water will knock a house down every time.  Reminds me of the three little pigs story.

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Good hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net


Thursday, September 26, 2024

9/26/.24 Report - Scattered Erosion to Some Beaches. Numerous Metal Detecting Targets. Beach Closures.


Written by the Treasureguide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report. 


John Brooks Beach Thursday Morning.

I went out the beach this morning and found significant erosion.  Also, to my surprise, there were a lot of coins and things to dig down by the water line.  I was surprised by how many coins were out there to be dug.

Before I get more into that, I should mention there were a lot of beach closures today.  Palm Beach beaches were closed.  I heard on the radio, that Vero Beach, although I don't know exactly what that includes was closed. I think also Juno Beach.  Frederick Douglass Beach has been closed for some time and is still closed.  The Fort Pierce Causeway Bridge is still closed.  Also, there were a lot of tornado warnings on the radio.

I'm afraid i see a disturbing trend here of earlier and more beach closures for less cause.  Pretty soon every little rainstorm will get us locked down.


Just in:  I got the following details on Indian River County beach closures from DJ.

 The county is not expecting to open shelters, according to Emergency Management Coordinator Ryan Lloyd. However, it will close facilities such as all county beaches — Amber Sands, Golden Sands, Round Island, Seagrape, Tracking Station, Treasure Shores, Turtle Trail and Wabasso. Beaches are expected to reopen at 7 a.m. Friday.”



Thanks much to DJ for that.

Unfortunately,

the above photo does not show well how much erosion there was at John Brooks.  The beach was pretty far back and the drop-off steeper than it looks.

John Brooks Beach Thursday Morning.

This one really doesn't show the erosion well.

There was a tight inverted coin line down in the wet sand.  I probably could have spent a couple hours digging those clad coins.


Surf Thursday Morning.

My pictures this morning aren't great.  The surf was rougher than it looks too.


Tree Across Access Road at Walton Rocks Thursday Morning.


Near the access at Walton Rocks Beach, the beach wasn't eroded like at John Brooks, a good distance up around the bend to the north, there appeared to be some better erosion.


Walton Rocks Beach Thursday Morning.


Walton Rocks Beach Thursday Morning.

The slope at Walton Rocks was generally firmer than the slope at John Brooks.  In general, it exhibited a distinctly different character.

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Third home in a week collapses into Atlantic Ocean on North Carolina's Outer Banks.

Here is that link.

Third home in a week collapses into Atlantic Ocean on North Carolina's Outer Banks (msn.com)

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Source: nhc.noaa.gov. 

Helene is the big news today.  Above you can see the likely path. 

 

Source: Surfguru.com.

So today we will have more good surf.  There is scattered erosion out there and things waiting to be dug.

Good hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Wednesday, September 25, 2024

9/25/24 Report - "Colored" Florida Beaches of the Past Including One Famous Treasure Coast Treasure Beach. Hurricane Helene Warnings.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.


South of Wabasso Tuesday.
Photo by DJ.

Thanks for the photo DJ.

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During segregation, Lincoln Beach was the one place on Lake Pontchartrain In New Orleans where Black people were allowed to swim. Live acts like Fats Domino and Nat King Cole drew crowds to a recreation area that included a roller coaster and swimming pools. But with passage of the Civil Rights Act in 1964, Black New Orleanians were finally allowed to swim at nearby Pontchartrain Beach. Lincoln Beach closed not long after.

The area fell into disrepair over the next 60 years. The three tunnels that once led locals under the railroad tracks to Lincoln Beach’s shoreline are fenced off and filled with storm water. Visiting the beach has long been prohibited, at least officially, although until recently the rules were rarely enforced.



When he saw Mr. Pellet on the local news in 2020 for his effort to restore Lincoln Beach, it only took a few days before Mr. Ford began cleaning the beach too. Eventually, he, Mr. Pellet and other volunteers installed lighted pathways and trash bins. They filled thousands of bags of trash with debris scattered by Hurricanes Zeta and Ida. They built permanent fire pits and a drainage system using PVC pipe that helps keep the area manageable after flooding. They also removed brush, fallen limbs and trees, as well as steel and concrete remnants of the beach’s former infrastructure, like the dilapidated pool and stage...

Here is the link for the rest of that article.

In New Orleans, a ‘Black Beach’ Is Being Rescued From the Ruins (msn.com)

I've metal detected a number of "colored beaches."  That is what they were called.  Those of you are fairly new to the area might not know that Douglass Beach was once one of those beaches where blacks could go to the beach during the era of segregation.

I've detected several others.  After segregation ended, like Lincoln Beach, many were pretty much abandoned and became overgrown.; That is the kind of place that drew me and the kind of place that was not detected a lot by others.  

One of those was on Virginia Key, which has since been renovated.  Before the renovations, some of the old buildings and features were still standing, but in disrepair.  

I found many silver dimes and quarters there as the small dunes in front of what appeared to once be a concession stand eroded back.  There was another spot up around the bend where some people still went, but evidently not detectorists, as suggested by the number of rings found.

Those beaches weren't my highest priority beaches.  They didn't generally produce the best jewelry, but they were good to hunt when the conditions were right.  

It is always good to look around.  You never know what you might discover at a remote or overgrown area.  Keep your eyes open for signs of past activity.  Maybe an old fence post hidden in the brush or piece of half buried concrete slab.

And there was John Lloyd beach.  When I detected there, like the other colored beaches a few decades ago, there were few visitors. That is one thing I liked about those beaches.  They didn't attract a lot of people and they weren't generally heavily detected.

On May 14, 1946, a delegation from the Negro Professional and Business Men’s League Inc. petitioned the Board of County Commissioners “seeking a public bathing beach for colored people in Broward County." In 1954, the county finally acquired a barrier island site, designated it for segregation, and promised to make the beach accessible, but a road was never built. In response, Eula Johnson, Dr. Von D Mizell and many others led a series of protest wade-ins on all white public beaches...

In the 2015-2016 Florida legislative session, Senator Christopher L. Smith led efforts to rename John U. Lloyd Beach State Park to Von D. Mizell-Eula Johnson State Park...   
(Source: History | Florida State Parks)

A July 25, 1952 Miami News article reads, "Negro Beach Planned Near Fort Pierce."  Continuing, "Establishment of a Negro bathing area on South Beach is proposed by the County Commission.  The board has leased for a four-year period 600 feet of beachfront a short distance south of the city line, which it proposed to clear off and grade for parking, erect a picnic facilities and toilets and provide a well."  So it wasn't all that long ago.

That is a nice story of Lincoln Beach near New Orleans is being cleaned up and brought back to life.

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Source: nhc.noaa.gov.

Above is the cone for Helene.  Looks like it could be another big hit on the big bend area.

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  • Dozens of counties announced school closures, including Hillsborough and Pinellas.
  • Evacuations are being ordered in several counties, including Sarasota and Charlotte.
  • Residents in the storm's potential path are being told to prepare for up to a week without electricity.
  • Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis declared a state of emergency for nearly the entire state.

W​hile the storm is expected to make landfall somewhere in the Florida Panhandle or along the northern Gulf Coast, impacts could stretch much farther. Residents in the potential path are being told to prepare to be without power for up to a week.

Here is the link for more about that.

Florida Declares State Of Emergency Over Potential Hurricane Helene (spiritdaily.org)

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Source: SurfGuru.com.

We have some higher surf today and tomorrow before it steadily increases for a few days.

The tides remain high, but not at their peaks.

Good hunting,

Treasureguide@comcast.net

Tuesday, September 24, 2024

9/24/24 Report - Numismatic Beach Finds: Canadian Trade Dollar Tokens and Some Research. Major Hurricane Possible for Florida.

 

Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.


Monnaies Serge Huard/Regina Coin Club Token/Trade Dollar.

When you begin detecting you find things unusual things that you don't recognize or know anything about but being unusual you wonder if they might be rare or valuable.  I found the two large tokens or trade dollars, shown above, at Hollywood Beach about forty years ago or so.  I remember it well. 

I was using the Fisher 1280 Aquanaut, which was my second detector after I got into metal detecting, but the one that really gave me a lot of momentum.  It is the one I was using when I learned the dangers of too much discrimination and a lot of other good lessons.

I've told this before, but I was finding a lot of larger rings and thought men lost more rings than women, but then after I turned my discrimination down, I found more women's rings.  I was missing the women's rings with the nice gem stones before.  Eventually I switched to metal detectors that had no discrimination at all - save al little for salt mineralization.  Those were the Stever Noga and Herb MacDonald modified Nautilus detectors, which were my favorite detectors.

But back to these two tokens.  I was in the water on a beautiful, crowded beach day with a lot of tourists. Despite the many people, I was trying to maintain a low profile.  Two kids were following me around.  I wasn't quite as good at keeping my finds hidden from onlookers in those days and the two kids saw these objects when I picked them up and screamed at the top of their lungs, "He found two big coins."  So everyone within a hundred yards knew that I found them, but I didn't know what they were.

I later learned a technique to keep anyone from seeing what came up in my scoop even if they wereright there looking at it.  Before lifting the scoop from the bottom, I'd shake the scoop vigorously so that it created a sand cloud, then quickly stick my hand in the scoop and by feel pull the item out and in one motion slip it into my pocket before anyone saw it.  Very quick, slick and effective.  I'd then wait until I got away from the crowds before taking the object out for inspection.  Later though, most of the time I'd avoid people by hunting very early in the morning or at night.  There were occasions when I couldn't do that.

Back to the tokens. That was back before the internet and research wasn't so easy, so I put them away not knowing much about them except what they said.  You can clearly read Regina Coin Cub on the one side and Monnaies Serge Huard on the other.  

Eventually I found the following on the Regina Coin Club site.

Over the years the Regina Coin Club has issued a number of trade dollars, commemorative medals, convention souvenirs, wooden nickels, and other assorted numismatic items. Check out the categories below for the latest listing of these numismatica....

They have a number of these listed on the site, but not the one I am showing.  See RCC Numismatica | The Regina Coin Club.  I have however seen this one for sale on eBay a couple times.

Below is the address of the Regina Coin Club.

2370 Elphinstone St, Regina, SK S4T 3P1, Canada
C9R9+F9 Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada


And here is some of the history of the club, which you can find on the Regina Coin Club web site.

On January 23rd, 1953, a group of Regina coin collectors met at the home of Ernest "Ernie" Haddad to discuss forming a new chapter club of the Canadian Numismatic Association (CNA). Cecil C. Tannahill, who had just moved to Regina and was serving as the CNA's Representative for the Prairie Provinces, chaired the meeting and called for an election of officers. Cec was subsequently elected as the club's first President. Christina Morrice was elected the club's first Vice-President, and Thomas James "T.J." Hardie was named the club's first Secretary-Treasurer. The other charter members of the club that night included host Ernie Haddad, Martin M. Watts, and William Nell. At a follow-up meeting on February 3rd, Peter M. Smith, James "Jimmy" Ziegler, R.S. Robertson, and Harold E. Sampson joined the club. Dues were set at $1.00 per year, and all members agreed to also be members in good standings of the CNA. The February 1953 issue of the CNA Bulletin contained the 'official' announcement -- CNA Chapter No. 6 (Regina) was open for membership...

And Monnaies Serge Huard or in English, Serge Huard Coins, seems to be a coin ship with a current location in Quebec that you can find on Google Maps.

But what I started to discuss is the distance between where the coin or token came from and where it was found.  It came from Canada and was found in Hollywood, Florida.  That is quite a distance.

In those days, and maybe still today, Hollywood Beach was a place that many Canadians visited in the winter.  So that is probably how it got there.

I found other numismatic items on that beach, such as the following silver coin in uncirculated condition.  



That is a nice silver commemorative coin in uncirculated condition, yet it was found on the beach - not far from a shower.  I remember where it was found.  It couldn't have been out there long.

So there were several numismatic collectibles, including other Canadian items, found on Hollywood Beach, and I always wondered about them.  I can understand the Canadian connection, which is pretty obvious, but I still wonder how and why fine numismatic like the above uncirculated commemorative coin, would be on the beach.  

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Source: nhc.noaa.gov

It looks like a major hurricane that will affect Florida could be forming.  I suspect this one will affect us, but the details are not certain.  Possibly hitting the Panhandle as a major hurricane and sending us a lot of wind and rain.


Source: SurfGuru.com.

Looks like we'll be having some higher surf on the Treasure Coast Wednesday and Thursday.

If you have been avoiding the summer heat, this might be a good time to get back in the swing of things.  Get your equipment ready and your arm in shape.

Good hunting,

Treasureguide@comcast.net