2/28/21 Report - An Encrusted Object Explored. Links for Research. Blog Archive Posted. Tides Getting Bigger.

 Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.

Encrusted Object Recently Found by DJ.

Encrusted Objects come in all shapes and sizes.  Sometimes they contain something interesting, and sometimes not.  Sometimes they only contain a hollow space in the shape of the iron object that was encrusted before completely dissolving.

Above is an encrusted object recently found by DJ, and below is his question.

Went to one of the treasure beaches today to do some testing. Found this very iffy signal that I would not normally dig. Numbers ranged from iron, mid tones and an occasional high tone. Any tips on how to reveal what’s inside?

Before I received his email DJ found an old post on the subject on the original treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com site. Here is the link.

The Treasure Beaches Report Direct From Florida's Treasure Coast.: 6/24/19 Report - Encrusted Objects (EOs), Clumps and Conglomerates and Their Contents.

Conglomerates are not always hundreds of years old.  In fact they can be quite modern.

DJ opened his EO and found the item shown below.  

Same EO Opened To Show Piece of Rebar.

It seems to me that the EOs that contain nothing but a hollow space where an iron item was once encased, look very much like concrete.  They aren't as loose as the one shown above.

Another way to learn what is in a conglomerate is to have it x-rayed.  Here is a link to a post that told about one reader that had his EO x-rayed. 

The Treasure Beaches Report Direct From Florida's Treasure Coast.: 8/29/18 Report - Another Conglomerate: X-ray Says... Standard Oil Token Info. Taking Time To Learn The Story of a Find.

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Yesterday I posted a photo of a seal ring that I found.  I never did the research to see if I could learn who it belonged to, but Ron J. did some research and provided some links to web sites that anyone might find useful.  Below is what Ron said.

Hello Dr. Treasureguide,

 

Your mystery signet-seal ring gave me a pleasurable evening learning about crests.

 

Sorry, I did not find your crest and forgot what the shape is called but learned that most likely it could be American due to the shape of the shield flaring out at the top does not show up in the German - European crests and they also do not seem to have the stars or the stripes. The most stars I found were in American Sorority crests.  University & School seals are round and may contain a crest.

I think the only crest with any sort of arch is in the attached photo.  The Eagle and Lion are very common in both European and American crests. The Wikipedia website has an extensive listing of official Gov. crests for the16 German states and their counties.

Each town has a crest as well as family's but I did not go there because of the stars, stripes, & the crest shape.

 

Spanish crests contain vertical stripes red and yellow in color.

What I did not get into was Spanish family crests. This site lists a lot of names but one at a time.

Would be worth a look if you thought it could be Spanish. If you got it in your south Fl. days then could it be modern Spanish?

 

https://surnamecrest.com/spanish-family-names/

 

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wappen_der_deutschen_Stadt-_und_Landkreise

 

https://www.shutterstock.com/de/search/lion+eagle+crest?page=26

 

https://www.woodmetalplaques.com/customers/university-college-seals/fraternity-sorority-coat-of-arms.html

 

I saw lots of cool crests, unfortunately none matched yours.

 

Many thanks for your reports.

Ron J.

Thanks for your research Ron, and thanks for the useful links.

Just the other day I added an archive to the original TreasureBeachesReport.blogspot.com web site so you can easily go back through older posts.  There are many of them and people often go back looking at some of the older posts.  Like I said yesterday, unfortunately some of the oldest ones got deleted.  I think they went back to 2008 or close to it.  Still there are a lot of posts there and you can use the search box to find topics or you can now use the dated archive list to search by date.  Hundreds of people still refer to those older posts daily.

The surf links are now below the dated archive list.

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If you ever wondered how I decide what to post on any given day, there is no way to tell.  It mostly comes down to what I am thinking about and interested in on that day.  It is just whatever comes out when I write.  That is all I have time for.  I don't have time to try to make something fit in that just doesn't.  Sometimes something will be on my mind and I really want to post it, but it just does not come together, so I give up on it.   I might put something like that off for some other time, and maybe I'll get back to it and maybe I won't.  Sometimes things just fall into place and sometimes they don't.  

A disclaimer was recently put on some of the Muppets programs.  You might wonder how the Muppets could possibly be offensive, but some people have such a warped imagination that they can find anything offensive.  I thought it was funny though, that a Muppets program with Johnny Cash singing in front of a Confederate flag was considered offensive, when the same day I saw a PBS program investigating the genealogy of Roseanne Cash (Johnny's daughter), and they discovered that Roseanne and her father had African American genes.  So a black man singing in front of a Confederate flag was found racist against blacks.

Mr. Potato Head must have thought that up.

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The vernal equinox will be March 20.

The tides are getting bigger.  In recent weeks the tides have been small, with little or no negative tides.  Thankfully that is changing.  The negative low tides allow you to get out and explore the uncovered low tide areas a little more easily.

The surf predictions aren't exciting.

Source: MagicSeaWeed.com.

Happy hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net

2/27/21 Report - Some Old Finds and Some Mystery Items. Underwater ROVs under $3,000.

 

Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.

Source: MagicSeaWeed.com.

Looks like we might get another little bump in the surf in a few days.  And the tides are getting a little better too.  They were pretty flat for a while.  We weren't getting any negative tides for a while, so that could help a little.

Tides for Fort Pierce Area
Source: MagicSeaWeed.com.

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I was looking back over some old posts and I couldn't believe it had been so long.  Some of those things I remember like it was yesterday.  Unfortunately I was having trouble with the blog at one time and deleted some of the oldest posts.  But here are a few photos from over ten years ago.

Bunch of Heavy Class Ring Finds.

The good thing about finding a class ring is all the information on it.  You can often find the owners name inscribed inside.  As a result you can often return class rings to the original owner.  But not all of them have the names inside and it is not uncommon for the owner to be deceased.

Many of the mystery items that I've posted have never been solved, but some have not been identified even after ten years.  I found a few of the items shown below.  They were different sizes, and were found along with musket balls and other old items.  Some people thought this might be a gorget, and it could be, but I'm not totally convinced.   Still I don't know what else it is.  It reminds me of a heel or toe tap or protector, but the holes aren't in the right place.  Maybe it is a gorget.  I just don't know.

Mystery Item.
Gorget(?)

Then there was this signet ring.  Someone might be able to identify the seal, but so far it hasn't been identified.  Some serious research might solve that one.

Seal Ring.

Looking back it is hard to imagine that those posts were that old.  In some ways not much has changed.   

I have learned a lot.  I've refined my understanding of beach erosion.  That is perhaps what I've learned most about.  It is a continuing thing.

Even back ten years ago, there was a lot of beach renourishment and I was talking about renourishment sand.  If anything, that has just increased.  They are pouring more and more sand on the beaches.

I let the original treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com site get too big.  It is very difficult to find the statistics on the posts that are ten years old, for example.  Yet I wish I didn't delete so many of the old posts.

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Dug Wedge.

I didn't realize it was so long ago that I found this wedge.  I used electrolysis to clean it up.  It looks very different today.  I didn't remember it looked so bad when I found it.  Seems like a good idea to keep a photos of finds.

Originally I called it a chisel, but someone pointed out the difference between a chisel and a wedge, and it is a wedge.  

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Did you know that you can get an underwater ROV for under two or three thousand dollars?  It might be a good way to inspect some areas without getting your hair wet.

Underwater ROVs for Under Three Thousand Dollars.

You probably don't care about getting your hair wet, but you might find it convenient to get a look in some areas without jumping in.  

This selection of ROVs is listed in the B&H photography equipment catalog.  You can find it at BandH.com.

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Happy hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Here is an interesting article about one wreck.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9300129/Elgin-Marbles-ship-Flintlock-pistol-shoe-parts-shipwreck.html

2/25/21 Report - 22 Reales Found One Year Ago. Treasure Chest Dug On Beach. Small Charm. Jan. 6.

 Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.

Reales  Dug Up by Captain Jonah
At Turtle Trail Just Over A Year Ago Today
Photo by Captain Jonah.

One year ago today my lead story was about the 22 reales found by Captain Jonah on a beach during a single outing.  The perfect beach conditions existed at one location for one tide cycle when a an area of gravel was uncovered and these 1715 Fleet reales were dug near Turtle Trail.  Many more reales were missed during the rough water and very challenging detecting conditions.

The years fly around.  It doesn't seem that long ago.  Other cobs were found around that time too.  

February is often a decent month for metal detecting.  Beach conditions haven't been great so far this year, but we have another month or two before we typically get into summer conditions and waiting for hurricanes.

Here is the link to the post in which I reported this find.

The Treasure Beaches Report Direct From Florida's Treasure Coast.: 2/25/20 Report - Twenty-two 1715 Fleet Reales Found on The Treasure Coast On 2/22/20.

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It is always exciting to dig up a treasure chest on a beach, but they are not always what you might expect.  Here is one such story. 

Angie Moore of Atlanta says she was out with her dad “experimenting” with a metal detector when it indicated something big in the sand outside the Marriott Grande Ocean in Hilton Head.
“So, I started digging,” Moore told McClatchy News. “We finally cleared the top of it off and ... it was one of those moments where you can’t believe what you’re seeing. The wooden chest had really degraded so as I attempted to lift it, part of the wood came off and we got our first glimpse of ‘gold.’”

Seconds later, Moore realized she’d been had by a joke that was likely years, if not decades, in the making.

“We went from, ‘OMG, it’s a treasure chest full of something gold’ to ‘Oh wow, those are toy coins,’” Moore said...

And here is the link.

Old treasure chest brimming with coins unearthed on SC beach. Then came the bad news (msn.com)

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Small Charm Still Needs Cleaned.

An appropriate find for the Treasure Coast, this tiny charm still needs a good cleaning.

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When the January 6 riot at the Capital Building occurred, you might remember me pointing out the black-garbed geared-up leftists in the crowd.  They wore the same black clothes, back packs, helmets, and face shields that you saw at all summer during the BLM riots.  All it took to throw some people off, was a red Maga hat on top of it all.  

Immediately after watching the event, I pointed all that out to you.  Now testimony read at a Senate hearing confirmed what I said.  Here is an excerpt.

Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., read aloud from, and entered into the Senate record, an article by J. Michael Waller, a senior analyst at the Center for Security Policy, a national security think tank.

In it, Walker writes that “provocateurs” infiltrated a pro-Trump march with peaceful protesters and whipped up a normally law-abiding crowd to turn against law enforcement. Walker was an eyewitness to the Trump rally Jan. 6 before it turned into a riot.

“I would really recommend everyone on the committee read this account,” Johnson said...

Not only that, they should also read books like the one I referred to recently about the Communists Left and their strategies and tactics.   This is nothing new.  The same things were done back in the 1970s.   The Communists have long been trying to find a way to exploit the American black population.   Be informed or be fooled.

There is always more to it than you are told about.  Read it carefully if you want to figure out what was really going on.  Exercise your thinking skills.

Here is a link.   DailySignal.com.

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We now have a west wind, and the surf is only around one or two feet.  We'll have a small surf for at least a few days.

Happy hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net

2/24/21 Report - When Coins Wash Up. Double Check. New Site Finds. Swamp Draining.

 Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.

I've been using this illustration of a theoretical beach profile.  I've used it to talk about items being uncovered or washed out of a beach, but I haven't said much of anything, if anything, about coins washing up onto the beach.  That doesn't occur real often.

The first thing that has to happen before coins can be washed up onto the beach, is that they have to first be uncovered.  As long as they are covered by sand they aren't going anywhere until the cover or sand is removed.  My first orange arrow points to that.

Then enough water must be moving with enough force to move the coins up onto the beach.  Of course that will also move the sand, but if the sand was already removed from in front of the beach or it continues to get swept away by the water, the coins will be left on what remaining sand.  It can be difficult to tell when coins are being washed out or when they are washed up.  The main thing to remember is that it takes more force to move the coins than it does to move the water, and where the force is reduced, the coins can drop out while the sand continues to get moved away.

So usually you have three factors at work.  First the sand in front of the beach will be removed so the old coins are uncovered.  Second, enough water force to move the coins as well as the sand.   And third, a lowered front beach that permits more water to move in and provide a lowered surface where the coins will be deposited.

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Two or three days ago when I went out I found very few targets.  I started with my Equinox and finally found a couple coins in one area.  Even though it seemed targets were very scarce that day, I thought there should be more than I found at that location, so I got out my ATX to check the area again.  Nothing more was found there.   I was glad I had the other detector along that day to check out the area.  

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New Finds From Possible Wreck Related Site.

As I've said before, some items are being found at a location of a long-rumored but little explored site that appears to be wreck related.

Others to be cleaned soon.

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Swamp Draining at Paynes Prairie State Park.

Yesterday I mentioned Paynes Prairie State Park after JamminJack mentioned it to me.  I thought you would want to know the interesting history of the park and might want to visit it someday.  Jack originally mentioned the swamp draining to me as an example for Oak island.

Here is what Jack said.

As mentioned earlier, they were draining Paynes Prairie and replacing the power lines. I cannot believe how quick they did that area. Images are from today and looks like they are almost done.

My point is Oak Island crew needed to watch how to drain a swamp, etc.

Paynes Prairie State Park Swamp Draining.

I long ago lost interest in O.I.   Maybe they'd have better luck finding Big Foot.

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Our friend Joe has brought the dark winter that he promised.  Miami is now the country's bright beacon of freedom that directly contrasts with D.C. and the other deteriorating cities of the north.  

Carpe diem.

Looks like we'll have nothing much more than a two or three foot surf for several days.

Happy hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net

2/23/21 Report - Beach Dynamics. Treasure Coins. Spanish Colonial Site. Jupiter Beach.

Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

A Few days ago I posted a couple pictures like the one above.  In the past few days we had a little erosion, but in most places it only moved some of the recently accumulated sand.  Above is my illustration of that.  The orange line above show the type of erosion we recently had.  In most places it was neither deep enough or far enough back to get into the productive layers.  The eroded sand was dropped on the beach in front of the cut, and will probably wash back up now that the direction of wind and waves have changed.  

The first day or two when the erosion occurred, there were some nice crisp cuts.  After the wind become more easterly the cuts were not as crisp.  I illustrated that below.

When a cut gets a little older and starts to deteriorate you will see something more like the second cut shape.  The sand from the cut will be deposited at the bottom of the cut and in front of the cut.  It will be a little more mushy and the targets will not be as frequent.

If after changing direction, the water over-washes the cut, the cut can disappear very quickly.  Even after that happens, there might be some targets remaining on the slope.  Remember, it requires more force to wash away good targets than is required to wash away the sand.

If the water doesn't over-wash the cut after a less eroding change of direction, the cut will more slowly  deteriorate, as shown above.

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Here are some of the items that will be featured in  of the upcoming Sedwick Auction.

The Esmeralda Collection features some of the finest examples of coinage, both gold and silver, to be struck by Gran Colombia from 1819 to 1830. In this period, wholly original and uniquely Latin American escudos and reales designs were created as the region left its Spanish colonial coinage behind.
 
There is no greater example of this liberation in coinage design than the “Libertad Americana” design, of which the collection features the finest known Bogota 1819JF silver 8 reales example. In fact, we like this coin design so much that the bust will feature prominently on a special holder label made by us and NGC specifically for the Esmeralda Collection.

Other key coins in the collection include a Bogota 1826JF gold 4 escudos graded NGC MS 64 pedigreed to the Louis Eliasberg and Richard Lissner Collections as well as a Bogota 1819JF silver 2 reales struck over a Cartagena imitation cob plated in Emilio Restrepo’s Coins of Colombia (2012). Indeed, many of the coins in this collection hold pedigrees to prestigious coin collections.

 

In our second offering of coins from the Nueva Granada Collection, bidders will find examples of rare Spanish colonial Colombian minors and proclamation medals as well as later date patterns and trial strikes. Both the quality and rarity of coins in this selection are sure to excite collectors as they did during the first part of this extensive Colombian collection.

 

This nearly complete collection will be one of the largest groups of Guatemalan cobs to hit the market in recent time. This first part will feature Guatemalan 8 and 4 reales, including rarities like an unholed 1733J 8 reales (only about 4-5 examples are known on the market).
 

Arturo Rosenheim was a collector of Spanish colonial cob coinage and a good client of ours. He attempted the difficult task of assembling all the possible dates of Lima 8 reales cobs and put together an impressive run.

 
Other collections to watch for in the sale include:
- Selections from the John Adams Collection of Admiral Vernon Medals
- Mexican Silver Cobs from the Isaac Rudman Numismatic Cabinet
- A Fine Collection of Latin American Crown Coinage

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JamminJack mentioned a couple things I wanted to follow up on.  First is Paynes Praire State Park.  It is a very interesting site to visit.

Before 1637, Francisco Menendez Marquis, the royal treasurer of Spanish Florida established the La Chua Ranch in the vicinity of Paynes Prairie. It spanned 87 square miles (230 km²) and would be, by the late 17th-century, the largest cattle ranch in the colony. It was raided several times by various Native groups and by French buccaneers. It became abandoned by 1706.  Source: Wikipedia.

Jack also mentioned the shell pile down at Jupiter.  They have been doing a lot of renourishment down there too.  There is some chance that in some of the work they'll uncover something, but mostly they'll be burying things.

Here is a video about that.

Beach renourishment project leaves shell pile in Jupiter (msn.com)

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Why do cancel culture members live in the U.S. on land stolen from Native Americans or accept currencies bearing the image of white men and slave owners such as George Washington or even participate in and profit from an economy built on slavery?  

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Covid seems to be going away. 

We'll be seeing a one or two foot surf again before long.

Happy hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net

2/22/21 Report - New Updates On Beach Conditions. Beach Renourishment Schedule. Some Finds.

 Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.

John Brooks Monday Morning.

There was a cut running the length of John Brooks and down to Frederick Douglass beaches this morning.  It was mostly about two feet high.  

Here is what it looked like Sunday.

John Brooks Sunday
Photo by Scott B.

There were more targets this morning (Monday) than the last time I was there (Saturday), and more than I found yesterday (Sunday) up in the Vero area.  Most of the targets were modern though.

John Brooks Monday Morning.

 
I neglected to charge my batteries last night and this morning my hunt was cut short when my batteries failed.  I didn't take a second detector today either.  Better to over-prepared than under-prepared.

Cut Behind Cut.

Quite a few yards behind the cut you can see what remains of an older and bigger erosion event.   That occurred some months ago. 

Realizing that the beach was eroded all the way back to that second cut in the not too distant past tells you that was the recent erosion was only recently accumulated sand.  There is very little chance that anything interesting was in that.  Finds coming out of that newly eroded sand in front of the old cliff  have been deposited during the time that sand was accumulating, so would not be very old.  The possible exception would be if something old washed up with the newly accumulating sand, but nothing that would be unlikely.  The newly accumulated sand is a uniform brown sand without any shells or obvious layers.  There are no signs of any events that would have washed anything dense up during that time.  It looks like it was a slow continuous process, as you would expect if you have been watching the beaches over the last several weeks.  Nor is there much chance of much of anything old having washed up in front of the new cut.  The sand was too mushy and the slope not shaped right.  If that happened you would expect more of a dip and a more densely packed surface.

And here is a photo sent from Scott B. of Fort Pierce Sunday.

Fort Pierce Beach Sunday.
Photo by Scott B.

Scott offered the following observations. 

 I took a cupful pictures today (Sunday) around noon. The first on is at Ft Pierce, the second at John Brooks. Although there is a decent cut, as you recently reported, it all appears to be renourshment sand.

Since I’m here I’ll still do some detecting this afternoon.

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Here are some finds from Saturday and Sunday made by Al C.

Recent Finds by Al C.

Al said, Not sure yet about the two coins. The little one is smaller than a dime and the other is bigger. Found the Meg tooth at Seagrape access in the shells. I think the small coin is foreign. Found it near Disney resort. 

Thanks Al.

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Here is the beach renousishment schedule.   Thanks to DJ.



Work underway on Indian River County’s Sector 3 Beach and Dune Renourishment Project. Photo from IRC

Indian River County has approximately 22.4 miles of barrier island beaches, extending from Sebastian Inlet south to Round Island Park, 15.7 miles of which have been classified by the Florida Department of Environmental Protection as “critical erosion” areas.1

Beach renourishment projects are a common method of shoreline protection to preserve the region’s coastline.2

The Sector 3 Beach Restoration Project, 6.6 miles of beach between Treasure Shores Park and John’s Island, began in January with Phase I -- Seaview subdivision to Wabasso. The county's contractor, Guettler Brothers Construction, has been operating out of Treasure Shores and Golden Sands Beach Park.3

The restoration plan involves hauling 307,000 cubic yards of beach-compatible sand from Stewart Materials in Fort Pierce. The sand is placed on the dune as well as on the berm, including in the water, resulting in a wider beach. Following sand placement, native dune grasses are installed along the dune.4

To accommodate the work, some beaches have closed.5

• Treasure Shores Beach Park reopens Feb. 22.

• Golden Sands Beach Park will be closed for the entire duration of the project, through April 30.

• Wabasso Beach Park's construction timeline is being adjusted and the park will be open past Feb. 18. Future updates regarding closure of Wabasso Beach Park will be announced at a later date.

Phase II of the Sector 3 Beach and Dune Renourishment Project, Wabasso to Turtle Trail, is anticipated to begin in November. The Sector 2 Dune Restoration Project, managed by the Sebastian Inlet District, is complete. The dune was restored with sand dredged from the inlet.6

Online reports as of Feb. 21, show 57 of 82 beach easements to construct the Sector 7 Beach and Dune Renourishment Project, which will restore sand lost from Hurricanes Matthew, Irma, and Dorian from the Treasure Cove subdivision to the Floralton Beach subdivision, have been received. Sector 7 stakeholders are invited to view the public webinar presentation that reviews details of the project.7

Source: The local “Knowhere Briefing”

Here is the link.

https://knowherenews.com/tc/event/AXfGbgqjgaWmPMqEPXc-?origin=newsletter&referral_code=357G67NWS5D7H

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I have a few finds from the last few days that are probably nothing very interesting but still need to be cleaned.

The surf will be decreasing the next couple of days. Not expecting any improvement.  At least we had a little change.  Soon we'll be into storm season again.  We've had some decent spring hunting in the past.  I often enjoyed an Easter hunt.  And there was always Spring Break.  Those were good in the past.

Happy hunting,

Treasureguide@comcast.net

2/21/21 Report - Vero Area Beaches Open, But Conditions Little Improved.

Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.

Turtle Trail Sunday Morning.

I showed some of the main wreck beaches yesterday.  Today I visited some of the Vero and Wabasso beaches.  

Turtle Trail had a cut that was at it's highest about four feet.  It not much different from yesterday.

Although there was a cut, targets were very scarce.

Very little cloth from the bags was showing anywhere.

The most erosion I saw started between the first and second flag pole and got small down around the second flag pole.

Turtle Trail Sunday Morning.

If you just looked from the access, you would see very little erosion.  Nothing like what was to the south.  

I also took a picture from the access at Seagrape Trail, but it showed very little erosion today - less than yesterday.  I don't know what happened to that photo.  

Wabasso had a small cut running along the beach.  More similar to Seagrape.  Not as big as what I showed for Turtle Trail.  I forgot to take a photo there, but found targets very scarce there too.

The good news is that Turtle Trail, Seagrape Trail and Wabasso were all open.

There was erosion today, but it wasn't very productive.  As you know, and as I showed a couple of days ago, it depends upon where the erosion is relative to the treasure.

Also as you know, we've had weeks of mostly accumulating sand, so even three of four feet of moved sand still doesn't get you down to the older layers.  Some of the recently accumulated sand washed away.

John Brooks and Frederick Douglass, that I looked at Saturday, looked very much like Turtle Trail and Wabasso in some ways.  There were some cuts on all of those beaches, but there were very few shells, and the sand was mostly a fairly course brown sand with almost no black sand.

I doubt if Brooks and Douglass changed very much last night.

Source: MagicSeaWeed.com.

Sunday night we're supposed to get a peak surf of five to seven feet.  Unfortunately the wind will be from the east.

I don't think that will improve conditions much, if at all.

Happy hunting,

Treasureguide@Comcast.net

2/20/21 Report (Part II) - Some Other Beaches.

 Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.

South of Wabasso About an Hour After Low Tide Saturday Morning.
Photo by DJ.

This morning (Saturday) I showed you John Brooks, Frederick Douglass, and Walton Rocks beaches.  DJ sent photos of some other beaches, including some from later in the day.

Wabasso Saturday Afternoon.
Photo by DJ.

That would have been close to high tide.  DJ was surprised to find Wabasso open Saturday.

Tracking Station Beach Saturday Afternoon.
Photo by DJ.

DJ mentioned that he could see the sand in the water moving south from there.

Thanks DJ.

Seagrape Trail Beach Saturday Afternoon.
Photo by DJ.

Expect the wind to become more easterly Sunday.  The peak surf is predicted to be about 9 PM Sunday.

Happy hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net

2/20/21 Report - Some Erosion On The Treasure Coast Already. Some Florida Treasure Finds.

 Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.

John Brooks Saturday Morning.

I heard the wind increase last night so went out this morning to see what was happening with the beaches.

John Brooks and Frederick Douglass both showed some erosion.

John Brooks Saturday Morning.

The cut was a little higher at Frederick Douglass than at John Brooks.  The cliffs varied from about one foot to a bit over three feet.  

Frederick Douglass Beach Saturday Morning.

It was a little chilly.  There were no footprints on the beach.  I did see one detectorist in the distance up towards the condos north of John Brooks.

Targets were very scarce at both John Brooks and Frederick Douglass.

Walton Rocks Saturday Morning.

From what I could see from the access, Walton Rocks was not cut.

Here is a photo from the Sebastian web cam I received from Jammin Jack Friday.

Image From Sebastian Beach Cam.
Submitted by JamminJack.

Although we've had few finds from the Treasure Coast beaches recently, some have been made both to the north and south of us.

Finds by Mark M.

Above are some from the Patrick/Canaveral area.  Unfortunately I lost the original email somehow.  As I recall, beach reconstruction was going on at the location where these finds were made.  I had it labeled Mark M., so if that is right or wrong, I hope you will let me know.

A few people alerted me to this story which is on the internet, and I mentioned it recently.  Evidently more coins are being found at the same location in the Keys where sand is being moved along A1A during construction.

Recent Finds Made By Blak Bart in the Keys
Submitted by Harry S.

As I always say, there is always some place to hunt and something to find.  Sometimes you might have to investigate go a little farther and investigate new places. 

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Source: MagicSeaWeed.com.

There was a nice angle to the waves at the two cut beaches early this morning.  Tomorrow we are supposed to get a bigger surf, but the wind will be more from the east.  Too bad.   We won't get much help from the tides either.  They are pretty flat.

Happy hunting,

Treasureguide@comcast.net

2/19/21 Report - Beach Dynamics During Unusually High Tides and Surf. 4 - 6 Foot Surf Coming.

 Written by the Treasure Guide for the exclusive use of the Treasure Beaches Report.

Beach Profile Illustration.

Yesterday I posted an illustration of a hypothetical beach profile.  It is shown above with one addition - a red arrow showing the general direction of dense objects over time.  

Items can be washed up onto the beach, but the net direction of dense objects over time will be as shown.  Such objects will tend to move down and out towards the water.  Each time an erosion event occurs, the objects can move in that direction.  If the erosion event is a large one, the objects will move farther.  Smaller erosion events can combine over time to move objects long distances over time even though each event might move those objects a short distance.  

Last October or November we had unusually high water due to high tides combined with unusually a high surf.  

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The high water and waves hit the face of the back dunes in some places, as shown by the illustration above.  The waves cut into the dune face, resulting in items in the back dunes falling to the flat beach.

That is one of two ways that old dense objects end up being found on top of or near the surface of the top layers of sand.  They come from higher layers of sand that was removed.

When the water level cuts into the dune face, as would happen in the situation shown above, the dune face is undercut and the items fall down, where they continue to be moved around by the water.  Both dense and less dense objects are washed out of the dunes, as items from different layers fall to the lower beach surface.  The face of the back dunes will recede, but the sand and other items are sifted and sorted as long as there is sufficient water force at those high levels of the beach.  Of course the tide will recede after that, and if the tides and surf remain high, the same thing can happen for additional tide cycles.  Sometimes the water hits the same high level of the beach multiple times and sometimes only during one high tide.

Depending upon how the water is hitting the beach, both sand and other items will be dragged down and towards the front of the beach, perhaps eventually resting on rock in the water in front of the beach.  There dense items will eventually get covered by sand.

Items will not always be dragged that far.  During a single erosion even they will very often remain on the beach, only to be covered again when the sand returns.  The depth of the items after the event will depend upon how much of the sand was removed during erosion.  As multiple erosion events occur over time, the items will tend to go deeper.  The areas of target concentrations will move as additional erosion events occur.  Sand will return and dense targets that were left at deeper layers will remain undisturbed until erosion events uncover those areas once again.  That happen soon, or it can be a very long time.

Back in October or November or whenever it was, not only did items fall out of the dunes, but the front beach was moved back too.  At one beach, something that doesn't happen very often occurred - old targets were found from the bottom of the dune face all the way down the slope and to the low tide water level after the erosion was over.  Rocks, which are not often seen at the water's edge, were exposed.

  

Look at the illustration again.  Notice how much additional water is over the beach when the surf and tides were high.  That is a lot of water and a lot of weight.  That is a factor that I believe is not appreciated.  All that weight must have a great affect on the surface of the beach.    Add to that the turbulence caused by waves and water passing over the beach, and also the changing water line as the tides come and go.  

I did not discuss all of the factors and the continuing changes that occur, but as you know, eventually the sand will begin to build again.   I think that is a good place to stop today.

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The tides are still small.  The surf is too.  The wind is coming from the south/southwest.

Source: MagicSeaWeed.com.

The predictions are still showing a 4 -6 foot surf for Sunday, but only for a brief time.  The wind will be out of the north Saturday.

Happy hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net